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An in depth analysis of the derby between the last two European champions - Oct 22, 2012


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Dimitris
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Another derby between Panathinaikos Vs Olympiakos ended last night with a different taste than the last 15 or so derbies between the two teams. Olympiakos succeeded a crucial road win with the two ex Panathinaikos players, Spanoulis and Perperoglou being the keys to the red success. The changes of roles for the two teams was more than obvious last night since the winning spirit of Panathinaikos all the previous years and under Obradovics coaching was totally absent, instead of that we have witnessed the winnings spirit of Olympiakoss players under the very good coaching of Coach Bartzokas who used last night nine players in key roles (he only gave 7 minutes to Sloukas and 3 minutes to Mavroeidis while Gecevicius was not used at all in the game) while his opponent, Pedoulakis used actually five players and Gave only 11 minutes to his top man (before this game) Schortsianitis, while the rest of the six players in his roster played from 5 to 8 minutes maximum. That is (according to our analysis) one of the major differences of the team, the trust of the Coach to his players. Panathinaikos used his American duet of Armstrong and Kitchen 4 and seven minutes while Olympiakos received from Law and Hines 15 minutes per player.

Many Basketball experts said yesterday that if Panathinaikos was better in the free throws and parameter shots, with a better Lasme in the offensive sector (had 3 of 6 in teh 2's and 1 of 7 in the FT's) then things would have been better for the Greens. Thats totally wrong! The Reds last night were much better in all the edges of the court, they had a target, they played strong and tough (mostly) defense like Panathinaikos the previous seasons, while on the other hand, Panathinaikos was very soft in the defense with only exception being the fourth period when though Olympiakos was ready to celebrate one of his vary few victories in OAKA the last 20 years!.

Bartzokas players had the passion to win the game on the other hand the newcomers of Panathinaikos (most of them) were rookies in such a derby and it was obvious that they didnt knew what to expect, the Green funs were magnificent (with a small exception at the end where they throw staff to the red players, and they never stopped pushing their players even when the difference was reaching the 20 points. The Greens never believed that they could have won the game last night with the only exceptions being the two Green veterans, Dimitris Diamantidis (196-G-80) and Tsartsaris who tried their best but they were all alone.
Another fact of the last game was the patient factor, the Reds had the needed patient to do their shots at the right time and from the right place, no wonder why not even the slightest three pointer (from a total of nine successful 3 pointers) was under a real defense, the reds were shooting alone, even the shots they missed with a couple of exceptions, were still alone no Green defense was taking place. Panathinaikos had no defensive strategy that was obvious for Pedoulakiss greens. Obradovic legacy is tough and his patriarch presentation within the Greens is missing from the Panathinaikos.

Last but not least, the rookies of Panathinaikos with no exception at all! performed lower than expected, some of them simply due to the fact that they havent been used accordingly and actively in the court, by Pedoulakis (no trust) some others due to the very good defense from Bartzokas players (Schortsianitis) and some of them simply due to the fact that they have nothing to be compared with the players they have replaced since they havent even tried to score in such a crucial game (see the 3 Americans - Panko and his one and only shot in 15 minutes, Armstrong with no shots in his 4 minutes, and Kitchen with 1 shot in 8 minutes).
Further to all these, its more than obvious after the last nights result that unless solid and crucial changes takes place in Panathinaikos, the Greens will end up in the second place of the regular season, (this team has no chance to beat Olympiakos in SEF, in the 2nd round) while in the Euroleague since they face serious difficulties against the very low in power, Kantu, they will be really lucky if they make it to the top 8 teams). Panathinaikos needs winners in his team and at this stage has players with no experience in victories..  




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Euroleague Standings
 1 Real Madrid 23-7 
 2 CSKA 22-8 
 3 Olympiacos 19-11 
 4 Panathinaikos 19-11 
 5 Fenerbahce 18-12 
 6 Anadolu Efes 17-13 
 7 Baskonia 17-13 
 8 Darussafaka 16-14 
 9 Crvena Zvezda 16-14 
 10 Zalgiris 14-16 
 11 FC Barcelona 12-18 
 12 Galatasaray 11-19 
 13 Brose Bask. 10-20 
 14 Maccabi T-A 10-20 
 15 EA7 Armani 8-22 
 16 Unics 8-22 
Full Standings
Stats Leaders
Points Per Game
 Keith LANGFORD
  Unics
  (193-SG-83)
  Avg: 21.8
 1. Langford, Unics21.8 
 2. De-Colo, CS.19.1 
 3. Goudelock, Maccabi .17.3 
 4. Wanamaker, Darussaf.16.7 
 5. Llull, Real Madrid16.5 
 6. Teodosic, CSKA16.1 
 7. Bogdanovic, Fener.14.6 
 8. James, Panathin.13.1 
 9. Larkin, Baskonia13.1 
 10. Rice, FC Barcelona13.0 
Rebounds Per Game
 Ekpe UDOH
  Fenerbahce
  (208-F/C-87)
  Avg: 7.8
 1. Udoh, Fenerbahce7.8 
 2. Melli, Brose Bask.7.4 
 3. Honeycutt, Anadolu .7.3 
 4. Kuzmic, Crvena Z.7.0 
 5. Voigtmann, Basko.7.0 
 6. Zizic, Darussafaka6.7 
 7. Dorsey, FC Barce.6.3 
 8. Dunston, Anadolu .6.2 
 9. Jankunas, Zalgiris6.1 
 10. Tomic, FC Barce.5.9 
Assists Per Game
 Milos TEODOSIC
  CSKA
  (195-PG-87)
  Avg: 6.8
 1. Teodosic, CSKA6.8 
 2. Spanoulis, Olympiacos6.1 
 3. Llull, Real Madrid5.9 
 4. Larkin, Baskonia5.7 
 5. Colom, Unics5.7 
 6. Jovic, Crvena Z.5.7 
 7. Guler, Galatasaray5.6 
 8. Heurtel, Anadolu .5.6 
 9. Calathes, Panathin.5.5 
 10. Westermann, Zalgiris5.5 
Steals Per Game
 Charles JENKINS
  Crvena Z.
  (191-SG-89)
  Avg: 2.1
 1. Jenkins, Crvena Z.2.1 
 2. Calathes, Panathin.1.5 
 3. Wanamaker, Darussaf.1.5 
 4. Lazic, Crvena Z.1.4 
 5. Wilbekin, Darussafaka1.4 
 6. Larkin, Baskonia1.3 
 7. Jovic, Crvena Z.1.3 
 8. Guler, Galatasaray1.3 
 9. Hanga, Baskonia1.3 
 10. Fernandez, Real M.1.2 
Blocks Per Game
 Ekpe UDOH
  Fenerbahce
  (208-F/C-87)
  Avg: 2.2
 1. Udoh, Fenerbahce2.2 
 2. Tyus, Galatasaray1.5 
 3. Pleiss, Galatasaray1.2 
 4. Parakhouski, Unics1.2 
 5. Dunston, Anadolu .1.1 
 6. Randolph, Real Madrid1.1 
 7. Singleton, Panathin.1.0 
 8. Birch, Olympiacos1.0 
 9. Honeycutt, Anadolu .0.9 
 10. Kirk, Anadolu Efes0.9 
Player of the Week

 Nando De Colo
  CSKA
  ( 196-SG-87 )
  
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