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CSKA 58% Oct.25 Panathinaiko
Fenerbahce 92% Oct.25 Anadolu Efes
Baskonia Oct.25 Valencia 89%
Unicaja 93% Oct.25 Brose Bask.
Khimki 81% Oct.24 Crvena Zvezd
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FC Barcelona 58% Oct.24 Zalgiris
Real Madrid 99% Oct.24 EA7 Armani
How Marcus Denmon's game translate to Panathinaikos? - Jul 30, 2017


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Marcus Denmon: from the so-called '40 minutes of hell'of Missouri to Europe and now Panathinaikos.. Denmon came from the production process of Missouri (he grew up there), when coach Mike Anderson presented us with one of the most fun to watch styles of basketball, called '40 minutes of hell', due to its nature, which needed up tempo basketball, fast-paced offense with quick execution and a strong tendency for transition and spread defenses on the entire court, aiming at pressuring their opponent, which could lead to fast pace, i.e. exactly the environment the Tigers had been trained to play and execute. After playing in some of the top European leagues, Denmon is before the great challenge of Panathinaikos and the Euroleague, which he was waiting for quite some time now. However, this is the Panathinaikos of Xavi Pascual, the master of the half court…. It will certainly be very interesting. Let's take a look at our notes…

AST/TO Rati: 1.84 (2.27 in the Europe Cup)

USG%: 22.51

eFG%: 54.6

TS%: 58.7

PPS: 1.32

FT/FGA: 0.27

High Efficient Scorer = A good basis for what Panathinaikos wants to play n offense.

- Marcus Denmon (1.88-G-1990) stands out among a huge tank of shooting scorers of this financial status for the efficiency of his choices on the offensive end, and in particular, execution. In his career so far, he bears the golden label 'scorer with good numbers'. His shot selection is great. He is always under control, and he recognises immediately the good execution condition, which leads to a low mistake behaviour, a very attractive asset for the basketball of coach Pascual.

Of course, what we are all expecting to see is how the Greens will integrate in their offensive arsenal the outside execution of Marcus Denmon, which is the main firepower of the player. He is an excellent shooter, which, combined with his ability to choose the right shots, impressed coach Popovic, who picked him for the 2002 draft, when Denmon was leaving Missouri. This is the organisation that developed the Greens/Gary Neals of this world, the one that picked the Spartan Bryn Forbes etc. His execution mechanics are perfect. He arms properly (his arm positioning is correct, the well-known three fingers between the palm and the ball, as is taught by the Yugoslavians and the school programs that produce shooter in the USA), ideal lifting and follow through (also note the 'elbow above the eye level' rule he follows religiously in the continuity process of his shots, which shows good education). His choice leads us to expect that this year the Catalan coach will change the direction of his offense, and present us with more movement away from the ball, and work for his shooters, based on the proper movement of the ball, starting from perfect spacing. Denmon can function well in this environment, as he is a guard with great confidence in his shooting, who can be constant in scoring from behind the arc, putting the pressure on defenses and increasing the available spaces for his team's offense.

-Denmon will be a very good choice for Panathinaikos' weak side offense, as he is the kind of guard that can be efficient without having the ball in his hands. He is a controlled player, which is a great asset for someone who waits in the weak side, aiming at producing from there. He knows how to handle himself in close out offense, and his ability to pass the ball (mainly late, after he puts the ball on the floor and goes inside) is an important weapon (in Gaziantep's post up offense for Balazic, he put much pressure on defenses). He also is a very efficient spot shooter, which is interpreted in an excellent manner in the Greens' backcourt, next to players such as Calathes and Lecavicius.

Note: He is a player that can shoot after dribble quite effectively, and he has the following peculiarity in this situation. He shoots very well after spot dribble, but he is not as effective after speed dribble. The deep squat (before executing) he uses after a mini reverse will remind you of Ramel Curry (and in general his behaviour in set conditions I dare say)…

I will agree with coach Deddas in his assessment that 'Denmon is an upgrade compared to Feldeine', even though the Dominical player had assets that opened up a good prospect at the highest level (bigger, longer, better on team defense). It's not an exaggeration to say that Feldeine played his money's worth at OAKA (a not so expensive contract), but he didn't have the required character that could have given him this extra push. Denmon has assets that justify the optimism for 'upgrade'. He is a player with far better intangibles, a very important asset for this level of European basketball, especially for a player that come to play for our teams. We will take his chances in a close game, he will 'shoot the ball and go to sleep on the way every night', as Pat Riley eloquently says about the mentality of a great shooter in the US. The second main difference has to do with the way the two players approach contact when they attack. Feldeine avoided it (it was almost impossible for him to score through contact), whereas Denmon is not afraid of it, and he is able to score though such situations.

Important note: Even coaches who had certain players in their teams may not assess them properly (of course they only have 10 lines in an interview for a mini report, and are not allowed to make an in-depth analysis). For example, it had been said that Dominic Waters would have given great help as a creator to Olympiacos last year, but Hoopfellas had focused on the player's weakness, interpreting his game in the demanding EL environment.

So, Denmon has references of a good 1 on 1 corer, but the most important variable in this equation is the level of defense, as this year in the Euroleague the Spurs draftee will be up against the hardest to break defenses he has ever faced in his career. My opinion is that the new Panathinaikos guard will find it difficult to score inside the paint in one on one frequently. Most 1 on 1 situations will finish with execution from the perimeter (where you will be able to enjoy execution after a side step). Yes, he is not afraid of contact and he has shown that he can finish in the paint. However, he is not the slasher that guarantees the creation of a breach.

His ballhandling is not of the level that allows him to make his defender loose his balance with a series of dribbles, and his athletic package is not one of an explosive guard. In the Italian league (of the lighter big men) with the Brindidi shirt, he had more chances to score from the paint, but these chances became fewer in Turkey, where the level was higher and the approach was different. This condition directly affects his visits to the free throw line (a great shooter from the charity stripe). Last year in the TBL he shot 101 free throws in 31 games (3.25 average).

The ratio (as you saw above) of free throw shots compared to the rest of his shots is 0.27. How will this be affected in the next level…? It's logical to assume that it will be fairly affected. However, this is where the type of offense Xavi Pacual will choose to play in the new season comes into play. Basketball is a complex sport. This is why we are allowed to have Hoopfellas.

-What cost Denmon a real chance in the big American league was his weakness to run the offensive playbook as the main ballhandler from the '1' position. He is a good passer (not just when he attacks 'pulling' the defense on him, but also in static offense executing introductory passes to the paint quite safely), he never developed playmaking skills in order to be able orchestrate the offense and get his teammates involved in it. He is clearly an off guard and, let's not kid ourselves, this is the kind of player the Greens coach wanted at his moment. He is not known for his advanced ballhandling and he a shoot-first player, but he has a high degree of perception, which is reflected in the way he handles himself against defenses that are adjusted to him, where he remains aggressive, without making risky plays. This is a good basis for his transition to the very demanding EL level. It does not guarantee success, but it's a good start.

-The defensive part will be an important test and evaluation criterion for his playing minutes and in general for Denmon's propect within a team that plays at the top level of Euroleague. Whereas the 27year old guard was part of the Missouri program, with the prediction of an above average defender, due to the way he used his quick hands and in general his behaviour defending on the ball, he never worked on this aspect of his game, playing in offense-oriented leagues, and in teams that never pressured him to make the extra effort on the defensive end. He will need to work on this, as for the first time he will be pressured to improve his performance and reach certain standards that are required for the Euroleague and the Panathinaikos level. Starting from his effort… Denmon has been in the Hoopfellas database for years now, and our constant updates in terms of notes include the word 'preservation'.

Being the main offensive choice on offense each time, and he was obligated to manage his fatigue and his opponent's pressure, he was caught several times 'preserving' himself on defense, defending away from the ball, which resulted in him conceding aggressive cuts of the player he was guarding (failure to act on time, improper body positioning) leaving an impression of looseness. Denmon is indeed a more efficient defender on the ball that away from it. Xavi Pascual will be the first coach that will undertake to pressure him and make him improve his concentration level and his total effort in this area. He is able to respond mentally, but it is of crucial importance how this change of habit will be interpreted in relation to his presence on the offensive end against defenses of the highest European level. Another advantage is that he is a good (defensive) rebounder for his physical/athletic package.

Summing up…

I 'll be frank… I really like seeing Xavi Pascual taking this direction in his choice and signing affordable players with an eye in his system. For better or worse Denmon is a 'gamble' for Panathinaikos. He doesn't have the background or the star quality or bigger names with experience in the elite European level, who guarantee certain things in terms of individual performance. But the main focus is the team. A few days ago I wrote…

Panathinaikos needs to find the right 'piece'. Not the super hero. The 'system' itself will take up this role. And if we get 'there' (not an easy task), I guarantee that you're going to like it…

I must say that I was expecting a guard of a different financial status (I am not saying a more quality player, as in Hoopfellas we have a different view of how often this belief is confirmed). Hoopfellas' yearly MADE IN USA list, which included Denmon, is usually not about players of the highest EL level, where the 'eternals' belong. To be honest, I had this player on my mind for the lower EL level, for teams like Zalgiris, Cverna Zvedza, or Brose. However, as I said before, the Greens would probably not find the superhero that would lead them to the Promised Land, even if they paid for a much larger contract. Marcus Denmon's functionality in this year's Panathinaikos largely depends on the way the team will choose to be structured, especially on offense. In an one on one offense (like last year's) the Missouri shooter will be inadequate and we 'll be hearing complaints soon. On the other hand, in a cooperation offense, similar to the one Xavi Pascual presented us in his years in Barcelona, Denmon has the prospect to be a very useful weapon for the 'Clover'. These choices are always risky. Is there the knowledge to develop him in your environment…?

  




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Euroleague Standings
$$Euroleague Standings
 1 Khimki 2-0 
 2 Maccabi T-A 2-0 
 3 Olympiacos 2-0 
 4 Real Madrid 2-0 
 5 FC Barcelona 1-1 
 6 Crvena Zvezda 1-1 
 7 Zalgiris 1-1 
 8 Unicaja 1-1 
 9 CSKA 1-1 
 10 Valencia 1-1 
 11 Fenerbahce 1-1 
 12 Panathinaikos 1-1 
 13 Anadolu Efes 0-2 
 14 Baskonia 0-2 
 15 Brose Bask. 0-2 
 16 EA7 Armani 0-2 
$$ANGT Standings
 1 ALBA Berlin 0-0 
 2 Bayern U18 0-0 
 3 BBA U18 0-0 
 4 Cedevita U18 0-0 
 5 CFBB 0-0 
 6 Cibona U18 0-0 
 7 Cr.Zvezda U18 0-0 
 8 CSKA U18 0-0 
 9 Darussafaka U18 0-0 
 10 Estudiantes U18 0-0 
 11 FCB U18 0-0 
 12 Fenerbahce U18 0-0 
 13 GBA U18 0-0 
 14 Gran Canaria U18 0-0 
 15 Joventut U18 0-0 
 16 L.Rytas U18 0-0 
 17 Las Palmas U18 0-0 
 18 LHospitalet U18 0-0 
 19 Macc.TA U18 0-0 
 20 Mega Bemax U18 0-0 
 21 Panathinaikos U18 0-0 
 22 Partizan U18 0-0 
 23 Real Madrid U18 0-0 
 24 Seville U18 0-0 
 25 Skyliners U18 0-0 
 26 Spars U18 0-0 
 27 Stellazzurra U18 0-0 
 28 U.Olimpija U18 0-0 
 29 Unicaja U18 0-0 
 30 USK U18 0-0 
 31 VEF U18 0-0 
 32 Zalgiris U18 0-0 
Full Standings
Last:10/20/2017
ANGT Standings
 1. ALBA Berlin 0-0 
 2. Bayern U18 0-0 
 3. BBA U18 0-0 
 4. Cedevita U18 0-0 
 5. CFBB 0-0 
 6. Cibona U18 0-0 
 7. Cr.Zvezda U18 0-0 
 8. CSKA U18 0-0 
 9. Darussafaka U18 0-0 
 10. Estudiantes U18 0-0 
 11. FCB U18 0-0 
 12. Fenerbahce U18 0-0 
 13. GBA U18 0-0 
 14. Gran Canaria U18 0-0 
 15. Joventut U18 0-0 
 16. L.Rytas U18 0-0 
 17. Las Palmas U18 0-0 
 18. LHospitalet U18 0-0 
 19. Macc.TA U18 0-0 
 20. Mega Bemax U18 0-0 
 21. Panathinaikos U18 0-0 
 22. Partizan U18 0-0 
 23. Real Madrid U18 0-0 
 24. Seville U18 0-0 
 25. Skyliners U18 0-0 
 26. Spars U18 0-0 
 27. Stellazzurra U18 0-0 
 28. U.Olimpija U18 0-0 
 29. Unicaja U18 0-0 
 30. USK U18 0-0 
 31. VEF U18 0-0 
 32. Zalgiris U18 0-0 
Last:9/6/2017
Stats Leaders
Points Per Game
 Erick GREEN
  Valencia
  (190-PG-91)
  Avg: 23
 1. Green, Valencia23.0 
 2. McCollum, Anadolu .23.0 
 3. Beaubois, Baskonia22.0 
 4. Doncic, Real Madrid20.5 
 5. Bjelica, Crvena Z.20.5 
 6. Seraphin, FC Barce.20.0 
 7. Jankunas, Zalgiris19.5 
 8. Calathes, Panathin.18.5 
 9. Robinson, Khimki17.5 
 10. Shved, Khimki17.5 
Rebounds Per Game
 Gustavo AYON
  Real Madrid
  (207-C-85)
  Avg: 10.5
 1. Ayon, Real Madrid10.5 
 2. Clyburn, CSKA10.5 
 3. Ledo, Anadolu Efes9.0 
 4. Robinson, Khimki8.0 
 5. Singleton, Panathin.7.5 
 6. Lessort, Crvena Z.7.0 
 7. Hunter, CSKA6.5 
 8. White, Zalgiris6.5 
 9. Dubljevic, Valencia6.5 
 10. Jankunas, Zalgiris6.5 
Assists Per Game
 Thomas HEURTEL
  FC Barce.
  (189-PG-89)
  Avg: 10
 1. Heurtel, FC Barce.10.0 
 2. Sloukas, Fenerbahce8.0 
 3. Rochestie, Crvena Z.7.0 
 4. Pangos, Zalgiris6.5 
 5. Theodore, EA7 A.6.5 
 6. Calathes, Panathin.6.0 
 7. Nikolic, Brose Bask.6.0 
 8. Vives, Valencia5.5 
 9. Markovic, Khimki5.5 
 10. Jackson, Maccabi .5.0 
Steals Per Game
 Rudy FERNANDEZ
  Real M.
  (197-SF-85)
  Avg: 3
 1. Fernandez, Real M.3.0 
 2. Clyburn, CSKA2.5 
 3. Shved, Khimki2.0 
 4. Timma, Baskonia2.0 
 5. Ulanovas, Zalgiris2.0 
 6. Jenkins, Khimki2.0 
 7. Waczynski, Unicaja2.0 
 8. Papanikolaou, Olympiac.2.0 
 9. Augustine, Unicaja2.0 
 10. Green, Valencia2.0 
Blocks Per Game
 Artsiom PARAKHOUSKI
  Maccabi .
  (212-C-87)
  Avg: 2.5
 1. Parakhouski, Maccabi .2.5 
 2. Singleton, Panathin.2.5 
 3. Vesely, Fenerbahce2.0 
 4. Seraphin, FC Barce.2.0 
 5. Robinson, Khimki2.0 
 6. Vives, Valencia1.5 
 7. Ayon, Real Madrid1.5 
 8. Lessort, Crvena Z.1.0 
 9. Thomas, Khimki1.0 
 10. Tyus, Maccabi T-A1.0 
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