Since the arrival of ratiopharm Ulm in the Beko BBL in 2006, the club has always displayed interesting and somewhat potent rosters that were formed thanks to ex head coach Mike Taylor who is coaching Maine in the D-league and often had the appropriate feeling and trusted magic wan that was able to haul in capable players according to the minimum budget that the club possessed. In the Mike Taylor era, he was able to find young lesser known players just starting their basketball career like Dru Joyce, Romeo Travis, Christian Burns, Lee Humphrey, Per Guenther or John Bryant who all were able to produce in the Beko BBL. The influx of strong players coming to Ulm continued after the departure of Mike Taylor as head coach Thorsten Leibenath came on board. Last season, the club had a special player with Isaiah Swann that had special offensive qualities who was a big factor in the success of ratiopharm Ulm. Granted head coach Thorsten Leibenath and the rest of the team also contributed to the team taking the ride to the final, but how often was Swann able to bring that extra spark and needed production in key situations of games helping the team propel the team to needed victories. At least two to three wins were on the account of Swanns scoring rampage and scoring in bunches that he displayed frequently. Swann left ratiopharm Ulm after last season with money signs dancing in his head as he is making three times as much in Turkey this season. This season, the team got a player in Allan Ray (188-G-84, college: Villanova) who arrived to replace Swann and show that he can be that ray of light in needed situations this season. Ray is a 28 year old 188cm guard form the Bronx, New York that is a an explosive scoring guard, tremendous leaper, finds the open man, beats foes off the dribble or with a jumper, has range beyond the 3-point arc and is a conscientious defender. Ray played a season for the Boston Celtics playing 47 games: 6.2ppg, 1.5rpg, FGP: 38.6%, 3PT: 41.4%, FT: 76.4%. In the last years, he has concentrated on his basketball in Europe and has played for top teams in Italy and France and was always dangerous with his scoring abilities. It will be interesting to see this season, how important he will be in crucial situations and how much the club will rely on his scoring qualities in key situations to win ball games. He is still seeking his full scoring touch, but he did explode against the Eisbaeren Bremerhaven this season with 31 points. Ray teammate Dane Watts already had a positive feeling about the ex NBA player before the season commenced. I remember him playing at Villanova when I was in school. He was a great scorer and player for them. Im sure that he will fit in with our team and bring a lot of high level experience, added Dane Watts. Head coach Thorsten Leibenath can be thrilled if Ray doesnt only help the team win with his offense. I think my defense is a hidden strength in my game.. Coach gives me a lot of confidence. I usually have to defend the others teams best player. I bring intensity and much pressure and just try to wreck the other teams offense, warned Allan Ray.
In 2010-2011, ratiopharm Ulm finished a less than satisfying season at 14th place with a record of 12-22. They started off the season with a four game losing streak and right away were reeling to get out of the Beko BBL cellar. The team simply wasnt consistent and really missed having a comfortable 6-7 game winning streak. It also didnt help matters that they closed out the season losing 10 of their last 12 games. It was no secret that the team was capable of putting up many points putting up 80 or more points 19 times. Many of their box scores read like NBA scores, but Ulm often was simply outshot. They also had problems closing out games losing six times by five or less points. The club was simply unable to get their offense and defense on the same page last season. Differences to last years team are noticeable. I think they are solid in more positions this season and dont have any let ups when someone comes in the game. They are a deeper team and have more options. As far as style goes I just think they are more patient and get the most out of each possession. They are a better defensive team and they have a lot more structure as well, added John Bynum last season.
Ratiopharm Ulm moved out of the beloved tiny Kuhberg halle which was always like hell for opponents, because at times it felt like the fans were sitting in the laps of the players or were a secret sixth man on the court, simply because the fans are so close to the floor. On December 10th 2011 the team moved into the new 6,200 arena which seats double as much as the Kuhberg arena. As a result, the team budget was doubled to three million euros. With the departure of Taylor came a known face in the beko BBL with Thorsten Leibenath. The German had a lot to prove, because this will be his third team he is running in the Beko BBL and will be best remembered for missing the playoffs two consecutive times with The Artland Dragons that had two deep talented rosters and playoffs written all over, but instead missing the playoffs on the last day each time and sending Dragon fans to the cafes early to talk over their basketball misery over coffee. Leibenath started his head coaching career in reaching the British BBL final in 2007 after being assistant coach in Giessen for many years. He now started a new coaching gig in Ulm and has showed that he has matured as a coach keeping ratiopharm Ulm very consistent and behind the Brose Baskets Bamberg at times last season with Alba Berlin wondering if they are seated in a very unentertaining movie without salted popcorn. Ratiopharm Ulm did a massive summer cleaning keeping only Americans John Bryant, Rocky Trice and Tommy Mason Griffin and Germans Per Guether and Sebastian Betz. Guys like Robin Benzing, Coleman Collins, Lee Humphrey, Sean Sonderleiter and Travis Walton all departed.
The team brought in a healthy core of Americans with double double candidate Dane Watts, scorer Isiah Swann, Beko BBL veteran Steven Esterkamp that got another chance after sitting out a year and playing in the PRO A with Essen last season and Skyliner Jon Leuer teammate at Wisconsin Keaton Nankivil. On paper the club looked like a playoff team, but ratiopharm Ulm manager Thomas Stoll was careful not to get too excited at the start last season. The league is stronger this year. Of course the fans can dream of the playoffs, but we just want to finish better than 14th place last season, stressed Thomas Stoll. We want to win more games than we lose. Maybe we can be near the playoffs, added ratiopharm Ulm head coach Thorsten Leibenath at the start of the season. The Ulm fans were dreaming of the playoffs after the strong 3-1 start. The club started the season with an impressive win in Bayreuth possibly the loudest arena in the league, then came home and beat playoff candidate Artland Dragons, then lost by a slim margin of 64-59 showing that they already have understood how to play strong defense early in the season against the leagues best Bamberg and then beat the always tough defensive minded TBB Trier on the road getting a monster game from John Bryant with 27 points, 16 rebounds and five assists. Instead of suffering a tail spin the team was strong all season having winning streaks of seven, six and five games. They are a solid team with some great players at each position. They will be a team in my opinion that will be in the playoffs if they continue to get better and work together as a team. I wouldnt call them a sleeper anymore but I am sure no one expected a lot from them this season. I do think they can make a push for the playoffs and I think they have great guard play and solid back ups at each position. They have guys who can shoot the ball and a great inside game with Bryant in the middle. As far as weaknesses the only thing I see would be what would happen if Bryant or Watts both got into foul trouble at the same time, warned John Bynum last season. The secret to the success has been a combination of coach Leibentah who found the right mix to follow his system and a group of non selfish players that play for each other and always want to win. Before the season, Leibenath was humble suggesting he wanted to win more games than he lost. However at the end of the season he proved all doubters wrong as the team finished in second place with a record of 27-7.They had an impressive playoff run routing the New Yorker Phantoms Braunschweig 3-0 scoring an average of 94 games in the three game series. Next they swept the s.Oliver Baskets Wurzburg 3-0 stopping their impressive season, but then ran out of gas against the Brose Baskets Bamberg finding out what it is like being swept 3-0. They had no real chance in the first two games, but lost a bitter 97-95 game three as Bamberg won their fifth league championship.
After such an impressive season, the question is can one top last season. The only step up is winning the league championship this season, but that is never easy considering the league gets more competitive each season. One can take the famous Bill Shankly phrase never change a winning team and apply it perfectly to ratiopharm Ulm as they did their best keeping important components like 2012 Beko BBL MVP John Bryant who can serve up a double double as well as Jared Jordan can an ally-op pass. The team also kept hard working Dane Watts who gives Bryant a lot of support on the boards, allrounder Steven Esterkamp, best German Per Guenther who has progressed as a player each season since 2008, role player Keaton Nankivil who can hurt you with his annoying three point shooting and oldest active Ulmer there since 2007 Sebastian Betz. The team lost scoring ace Isaiah Swann and Rocky Trice, but got more than sufficient compensation with ex NBA player Allan Ray, American guard Lance Jeter coming for the injured Tommy Mason-Griffin, German national player Philipp Schwethelm on loan from FC Bayern Munich who is starting to shine under Leibenath and bug German talent Daniel Theis who has already been inserted into the starting rotation despite little Beko BBL experience. The biggest strength of ratiopharm Ulm this season is the huge euphoric atmosphere that the team got last season that so far this season has held on as the team is near the top of the Beko BBL standings. Another strength is the deep roster and that many players were kept keeping some team chemistry form last season and the brand of players that they have where each plays for each other and where egos arent the most important thing despite stars like Brayant, Guenther and Ray. Important is also that the roster of players have many different qualities that help make this one of the more balanced teams in the Beko BBl with each player able of doing much on the court. Ratiopharm Ulm can only beat themselves this season. The question will be can they hold up against the pressure of continuing to win over a whole season. The double game function of Eurocup and injuries could take a toll on the team in the second half of the season and an injury to John Bryant could really hurt the club since his game fuels ratiopharm Ulm. The defense also could be a factor as the team is still finding a defensive identity as they have given up an average of 88 points in the first nine games. If they were only an average scoring team, then they would be near the cellar of the Beko BBL standings. But one thing is clear and Thorsten Leibenath can have more room to joke this season after the strong season last season. I dont think anyone will predict us as a team being in the cellar this season, said Thorsten Leibenath.Ulm has made another step forward. They found the right players once again this season. They can hit three pointers each second. Ulm is showing stability and when all players think the same then they are able to improve. They deserve to be at the top of the league now, stressed Fraport Skyliner head coach Muli Katzurin.
Since ratiopharm Ulm entered the Beko BBL in 2006, the Frankfurt Skyliners have a 7-6 record against them. They won in overtime 87-83 in 2007 with Murat Didin. The Eric Chadfield buzzer beater will for some reason always be stuck in the minds of people, which had an eerie similarity to the buzzer beater of Justin Gray against the s.Oliver Baskets Wurzburg this season. The Deutsche Bank Skyliners have a positive 2-1 record in the Ballsporthalle. In 2009-2010, Frankfurt lost 74-69, but got a strong game form ex Skyliner Lorenzo Gordon who scored 23 points and grabbed 12 rebounds. In the first meeting last season, The Deutsche Bank Skyliners dominated the game and put on a scoring display led by 23 points by Seth Doliboa as the club prevailed 95-82.Frankfurt shot an astronomical 57% from the field and easily won the rebounding fight 34-25. Ratiopharm Ulm did a great job only having seven turnovers. In the return game in Frankfurt last season, Ratiopharm Ulm lost 84-77 as Skyliner American Seth Doliboa had another monster game pouring home 18 points and 15 rebounds. Last season, Frankfurt lost a 87-82 nail bitter in the Kuhberg arena, but returned home to win 74-67 as Dashaun Wood poured in 17 points and 12 assists. In the first meeting of last season, the Fraport Skyliners lost a winnable game 81-75 in the old Kuhberg Halle where Dane Watts made the two big buckets at the end showing NBA player Jon Leuer that guys from Missouri can play basketball. Ratiopharm Ulm had five guys in double figures, shot better and rebounded better. Frankfurt was led by Justin Gray with 14 points. The Fraport Skyliners got revenge in the return game in Frankfurt winning 77-64 in their strong second half of the season. The Fraport Skyliners were led by Michael Thompson with 16 points while Jacob Burtschi had 15 points. The Fraport Skyliners enter the game coming off a unsatisfying 91-65 loss in Berlin. The team shot allright over 40%, but were killed under the boards and had a poor 19 turnovers. Dion Dowell continued to be a spark plug as he had 18 points, but overall there was too little team production, but the team was weakened because American Zach Peacock was injured. Another bright spot was the spirited play by young German Konstantin Klein who had 10 points and showed his increasing self confidence on the floor. Ratipharm Ulm are playing superb basketball having a 7-1 record in the last eight games with a more than convincing 96-66 win at home against the EWE Baskets Oldenburg. Ratiopharm Ulm is defending better in the last five games giving up an average of 76 points up while in the first five games, they gave up an average of 84 points. The Fraport Skyliners will have to get back to defending well the way they did in Bamberg and against Braunschweig, because ratiopharm Ulm is a scoring machine averaging 89 points per game. It is not about quality that we focus on, but on individual readiness for the game. We have to focus more on ourselves than on Ulm. If we play 100% and lose than I can be satisfied, but not when we give 100%. It is not important who you play, but how you play, warned Muli Katzurin.
ratiopharm Ulm is led by John Bryant who is a 25 year old 208cm center that is playing his third season in Ulm and was born in Berkeley, California and grew up in San Pablo. He played at Santa Clara university coming in in 2005 as well known players Doron Perkins and Kyle Bailey had just graduated. He played 124 NCAA games getting WCC Player of the Year in 2009. In his last three years, he was able to average double figures in points. In his senior year, he tore up the NCAA playing 33 games: 18.1ppg, 14.2rpg, 1.1apg, 2.5bpg, FGP: 59.6%, FT: 78.7%. In 2009 he was drafted by the Erie BayHawks (D-League,2rd (31) and played 48 games: 13.2ppg, 9.5rpg, 1.6apg, 1.5bpg, FGP: 49.3%, FT: 77.6%. In the summer 2010, he played NBA Summer League in Las Vegas (Milwaukee Bucks). He has a great feel for the game. This is his first season and who would of thought that he would play so well? He stays with his strength and takes high percentage shots. He has a very high basketball IQ with scoring and rebounding. I think that he could compete at any level in the world., stressed ex teammate Travis Walton. In 2010-2011 for Ulm he played 34 games: 14.6ppg, Reb-1 (10.9rpg), 1.1apg, Blocks-2 (1.5bpg), FGP: 60.4%, FT: 74.2%. Last season, he played 42 games: 14.1ppg, Reb-1 (9.4rpg), 1.3apg, 1.3bpg, FGP: 57.3%, 3PT: 40.7%, FT: 71.7%. . Per Guenther is a 24 year old 185cm point guard that was born in Giessen and grew up in Hagen and is playing his fifth season with ratiopharm Ulm. He has very good speed and can dribble with both his hands he is very good in shooting from the arc and he has very good organizational skills, he watches the court with one glance and can assist his team-mates on a blind method pretending that he will shoot. He has an inborn charisma of a leader from a young age so he leads his team without having any problem. He played for BBV Hagen from 2003-2006 and with Phoenix Hagen from 2006-2008. In his last season in Hagen, he raised eyebrows with his play playing 29 games: 14.5ppg, 1.9rpg, 2.4apg, 2FGP: 55.8%, 3FGP: 35.7%, FT: 80.1%. He has improved his play each season as in 2009-2010 he played 34 games: 6.6ppg, 1.8rpg, 2.5apg, FGP: 48.5%, 3PT: 33.8%, FT: 80.3%. Last season, he became into a real scoring option, but still keeping his playmaking qualities in front of him. He got into three games at the World Championships in Turkey in 2010. In 2010-2011 the German national player played 34 games: 12.4ppg, 1.2rpg, 3.2apg, FGP: 50.3%, 3PT: 27.9%, FT: 84.2%. Last season, he played 41 games: 10.5ppg, 1.8rpg, 3.0apg, FGP: 53.7%, 3PT: 39.4%, FT: 83.1%.
Allan Ray played at Villanova from 2002-2006 playing a total of 120 NCAA games. In his senior year, he played 32 games: 18.5ppg, 3.6rpg, 1.4apg, 1.2spg, FGP: 38.9%, 3PT: 37.2%, FT: 88.9%. He reached the final eight and sweet 16 for Villanova. In 2007, he came to Europe and played in Italy for teams like Lottomatica Virtus Roma, Carife Ferrara and Fabi Shoes Montegranaro until 2011. Last season he played for Krka Novo Mesto (Slovenia-Telemach League, starting five): Adriatic League: 1 game: 10pts, 1reb; EuroCup: 2 games: 18.5ppg, 1.5rpg, 4.0apg, 1.5spg, later that month moved to Elan Bearnais Pau-Lacq-Orthez (France-ProA, starting five): French League: 22 games: 15.2ppg, 2.5rpg, 2.5apg, FGP: 50.4%, 3PT: 39.5%, FT: 89.6%; EuroChallenge: 3 games: 14.3ppg, 6.3rpg, 1.0apg. Keaton Nakivil is a 23 year old 203cm forward from Madison Wisconsin that is playing his second season with ratiopharm Ulm. At Wisconsin he played together with Skyliner Jon Leuer and played a total of 107 NCAA games. In his senior year, he played 34 games: 9.7ppg, 4.2rpg, 1.2bpg, FGP: 49.6%, 3PT: 45.7%, FT: 83.8%. He reached the NCAA Sweet 16 in 2008 and 2011. Keaton "The Anvil" Nankivil is going to play a big role in Ulm's success this season. He is a rookie but has been picking up on the European game quickly. He is a team player with high basketball IQ and is automatic from 3pt land. He might drop an anvil on somebody's head in transition this year if they are not careful, stressed teammate Dane Watts. Last season, he played 42 games: 8.1ppg, 4.3rpg, FGP: 47.3%, 3PT: 42.9%, FT: 78.6%. Phillip Schwethelm is a 23 year old 201cm forward that is playing his first season in Ulm being loaned from FC Bayern Munich. He started his basketball career with Cologne in 2004, where he played until 2009. He played Euroleague at the age of 17. He helped Cologne win the Beko BBL title in 2006. He played for the Eisbaeren Bremerhaven from 2009-2011 and in 2010-2011played 36 games: 10.0ppg, 4.0rpg, 2.1apg, FGP: 49.1%, 3PT: 44.9%, FT: 72.9%. He has been a member of the German national team since 2010. Last season he played EuroCup: 6 games: 1.3ppg, 1.7rpg, 1.3apg; German League: 30 games: 3.2ppg, 2.2rpg. This past summer, he played Qualifications to European Championships 2013 - 7 games: 4.1ppg, 2.7rpg. Steve Esterkamp is a 31 year old 198cm forward from Cincinnati, Ohio that is playing his tenth season in Germany and second in Ulm. He is a great shooter and great competitor, has also a very solid mid-range shot, brings a lot of toughness to his team, is a solid rebounder from the wing position, is a excellent free throw shooter throughout his career, plays always extremely hard and to win, not afraid to take the big shots at the end of the game and always finds ways to get the job done. He is probably best remembered for playing with the Paderborn Baskets from 2004-2009 helping the team reach the beko BBL in 2006 winning 50 games in a row in the second Bundesliga. In Paderborn, he was part of the three Muskeeters with Marius Nolte and Tim Black. Esterkamp played a total of 159 games for Paderborn. In 2009, he helped force Alba Berlin to a 5 game playoff series that they eventually lost. He then went to Bremerhaven in 2009, but got hurt and never played a game there. In 2010-2011, he got his career back on track playing for ETB Wohnbau Baskets Essen (Germany-ProA, starting five): 13 games: 16.2ppg, 5.2rpg, 2.6apg, FGP: 54.1%, 3PT: 39.6%, FT: 73.2%. Last season for Ulm he played 42 games: 10.2ppg, 3.4rpg, 1.7apg, FGP: 48.3%, 3PT: 44.0%, FT: 76.1%.
Dane Watts who is a 26 year old 203 cm who is playing his fourth season in Germany and who is a modern day forward doing the job inside and outside. He played at Creighton from 2004-2008 playing with NBA player Anthony Tolliver. In his senior year, he averaged 11,3ppg, 6,4rpg and 1,0apg. Last season, he quietly had a very solid BBL rookie season in Ludwigsburg averaging in 20 minutes averaging 8.9ppg, 3.8rpg, FGP-1 (68.4%), 3PT: 30.8%, FT: 68.7% in 32 games. It wouldnt be a surprise if most followers of German basketball didnt even know that he led the BBL in field goal percentage at 68%. in 2008-2009 as a rookie. He is a team player that still has a lot of potential and could become a scoring option in Tuebingen. Dane has a lot of potential and has all the qualities that a big player of today needs. He can shoot, is athletic, has good ball handling and defends well, joked Jay Thomas. In 2009-2010, Watts played 34 games: 10.2ppg, 5.4rpg, 1.5apg, FGP: 57.1%, 3PT: 37.6%, FT: 71.0%. In 2010-2011 for Tuebingen he played 33 games: 13.7ppg, Reb-4 (7.6rpg), 1.1apg, 1.2spg, FGP: 57.9%, 3PT: 36.7%, FT: 54.5%; in May'11 moved to Hyeres-Toulon Var Basket (France-ProA): 3 games: 7.0ppg, 6.3rpg, 1.7apg, 1.0spg. Last season, he played 38 games: 9.6ppg, 6.7rpg, 1.4apg, FGP: 52.9%, 3PT: 24.6%, FT: 58.1%. Lance Jeter is a 24 year old 190cm guard from Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania that is 32 games: 11.7ppg, 4.4rpg, 4.5apg, 1.8spg, FGP: 47.3%, 3PT: 35.2%, FT: 72.8% playing his first season in Germany and ratiopharm Ulm. He played at Nebraska (NCAA) and in his senior year played 32 games: 11.7ppg, 4.4rpg, 4.5apg, 1.8spg, FGP: 47.3%, 3PT: 35.2%, FT: 72.8%. Last season he turned professional and played for Lasaulec Aris Leeuwarden (Holland-Eredivisie): 32 games: Score-2 (16.8ppg), 3.8rpg, Assists-5 (3.4apg), 1.3spg, FGP: 59.6%, 3PT: 36.7%, FT: 73.0%. 27 year old 200cm forward Sebastian Betz is hardworking wing who provides energy, defensive effort and consistent three point shooting. He started his professional basketball career in 2003 with Bamberg playing there until 2007. In five years, he was only able to play four games never being able to shake the Dirk Bauermann rotation. Mike Taylor scooped him up in 2007 and the German is playing his sixth season in Ulm. His best season so far has been 2008-2009 as he played 36 games: 5.2ppg, 1.5rpg, FGP: 50.0%, 3PT: 35.6%, FT: 54.9%. Last season the German played 42 games: 3.3ppg, 1.5rpg. The team also picked up German Daniel Theis that is a 20 year old 203cm power forward. He started his basketball career in 2009 for the Spot Up Medien Baskets Braunschweig (ProB). He already played a game for the New Yorker Phantoms Braunschweig in the 2010-2011 season as he had a double license. Last season he played : 21 games for the Phantoms: 3.4ppg, 1.9rpg; played also at Spot Up Medien Baskets Braunschweig (ProB): 25 games: 18.4ppg, 8.9rpg, 1.3apg, 1.1spg, Blocks-1 (2.2bpg), FGP: 61.4%, 3PT: 30.3%, FT: 72.4%. The team also has young Germans Marcel Heberlein and Till Joscha- Jonke.
Sometimes the overwhelming differences that two basketball teams may possess on paper can be as hard to digest for an opposing coach in terms of what strategy he will use for 40 minutes as it was NFL coaches and defenses to figure out how to stop a Tom Brady of the New England Patriots who at age 39 seems to be playing like in his prime and having that very special and rare football gen called forever young. When one observes Germany's youth league NBBL which displays the faces of tomorro... [read more]
Sometimes the overwhelming differences that two basketball teams may possess on paper can be as hard to digest for an opposing coach in terms of what strategy he will use for 40 minutes as it was NFL coaches and defenses to figure out how to stop a Tom Brady of the New England Patriots who at age 39 seems to be playing like in his prime and having that very special and rare football gen called forever young. When one observes Germany's youth league NBBL which displays the faces of tomorrow and possible professional players in the making, one can't always expect games in the 90's or a 50% field goal percentage as these kids are all still learning, but sometimes the stats on paper do tell the story. This was the case as unbeaten Eintracht Frankfurt who had beat MTV Kronberg in a thrilling OT game where they showed their true colors in OT and last weekend needed a 26 point explosion in the fourth quarter to leave the Junior Baskets Rhein Necker in the dust faced off against the 1-1 Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen in another classic Hessen derby. The guests lost the first game of the season against Porsche BBA Ludwigsburg with 65-58, but last weekend nipped the well-known basketball academy Urspring 55-53. The immense statistical advantages that Eintracht Frankfurt had were mindboggling as they averaged 82 points to 56 points of Langen, had the massive rebound edge of 51-26 and in the playmaking department also had more creativity with the 20-11 edge. Langen did have the better defense in the first two games giving up only 59 points while Eintracht Frankfurt did 65 which wasn't too shabby either. Stats are one thing, but in the end the only thing that counts is what happens on the court for 40 minutes and that is when both teams leave everything they have on the court. The Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen played a hard first half where nobody would of noticed any kind of big advantage for Eintracht Frankfurt, but the home team did break out of their shell in the third leading by as much as 17 points only to see the guests fight back and force OT, but then ran out of gas as Eintracht Frankfurt squeaked out a 82-74 win. After the game, 18 year old German Konstantin Schubert (195-SF-98) didn't look anymore pooped than after any other game, but he had played an overwhelming 81 minutes in 17 hours dating back to the Fraport skyliners Juniors OT win in Nordlingen the night before, but was still able to give sound answers concerning his second OT win within 24 hours. 'I feel very tired. This was my second OT game. I played 42 minutes last night and 39 minutes now. We were up by 17 in the third and can't let the opponent come back like that. We brought more power than Langen did into the OT and hit the deciding shots that gave us the win', stressed Eintracht Frankfurt forward Konstantin Schubert (195-SF-98). The Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen played a very spirited game, but used up a lot of energy after being down 17 in the third and just didn't have the needed gusto in OT to prevail. 'This was a tough loss for us. The third quarter killed us. We never gave up until the end, but Frankfurt just had more energy than we did', added Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen forward Julian Pfaff.
Both teams struggled on the offensive end in the first quarter as the guests were able to slow down the Eintracht Frankfurt offensive machine, but couldn't get much going on the offensive end either as turnovers hurt them. Eintracht Frankfurt got early production from 16 year old 207cm forward Beat Weichsler who got aggressive inside twice getting to the hole and scoring. EX USC Freiburg center Cosmo Gruehn who played 28 minutes in Nordlingen scoring eight points and hauling down five boards scored with his left hand and ex TV Langen guard Niklas Pons also scored inside as Eintracht Frankfurt led 8-5. Both teams were having their misfortune from outside and attacked the inside as 17 year old Christian Lonrich scored and 17 year old Turk Alper Bastiyali gave the Langen team the 9-8 lead. However Eintracht Frankfurt closed out the first quarter with an Oliver Babitisch lay in and Gruehn and Schuebert free throws as they led 14-11. Eintracht Frankfurt was shooting 31% from the field and the Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen were shooting 27% from the field. Both were shooting 0% from outside. The guests had the 12-8 rebound edge, but also eight turnovers while Eintracht Frankfurt had six turnovers.
The game remained tight in the second quarter until Eintracht Frankfurt was able to extend their lead to 10 points only to see it dwindle down again as the guests made a furious run to get back into the game. The Schoder Junior Giraffen came out with a lot of energy in the opening minutes as 18 year old 207cm center Ante Brko who played with Eintracht Frankfurt two years ago scored twice inside using his big body to his advantage and 18 year old Felix Lewe tied the game at 17-17 with free throws. Eintracht Frankfurt then found some rhythm on offense going on a 13-3 run to extend their lead to 30-20. In the run, Eintracht Frankfurt was sparked by the energy of 15 year old Alvin Onyia who made a quick inbounds pass to Schuebert for the easy lay in as two seconds were on the shot clock and then nailed a trey. The club also got free throws from Babitisch and Gruehn. It seemed like Eintracht Frankfurt might run away early with the game, but the Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen mounted a furious come back going on a 7-0 run to cut the Frankfurt lead to 30-27. In the run, Pfaff dropped a three pointer and Lovrich sneaked inside for the bucket and made free throws. The guests were fortified by three consecutive Eintracht Frankfurt turnovers. Eintracht Frankfurt guard 15 year old Maximillian Begue closed out the second quarter with a free throws as Eintracht Frankfurt led 31-27. Eintracht Frankfurt was shooting 36% from the field and 20% from the three point line while the Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen were shooting 33% from the field and 17% from the three point line. Eintracht Frankfurt had 13 turnovers and the guests 14 turnovers.
Eintracht Frankfurt pulled away in the third quarter going on a 14-o run to extend their lead to 45-27 as the guests remained scoreless for almost six minutes. In the run, Eintracht Frankfurt got production from 16 year old 198cm forward Leon Pullen who scored in the paint as did Gruehn. Schubert also was very active scoring three buckets with two inside and one from the parking lot. The Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen found out of their funk just in time to close out the third quarter going on a 13-3 run to trail only 48-40. In the run, the guests were sparked by various options as 16 year old Micha Hoffmann who is the brother of ex Skyliner Jona Hoffmann hit two difficult shots with a runner and running hook shot. Lovrich hit an off balance shot and Brko scored in the paint area again. 'We did a good job on defense and just stopped them for a long time. Our one on one defense was very good. We communicated better on defense and our help defense also was good. On offense we moved the ball better', added Konstantin Schubert (195-SF-98). 'We didn't think and had no structure. We had too many own ideas. We got away from what we know from practice', stressed Julian Pfaff. Eintracht Frankfurt was shooting 36% from the field and 21% from the parking lot while the Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen were shooting 33% from the field and 11% from the parking lot. Eintracht Frankfurt had the 30-24 rebound edge and 20 turnovers while the guests had 21 turnovers.
In the fourth quarter, Eintracht Frankfurt was able to keep their comfortable lead for the first few minutes, but then watched as the Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen slowly chipped away at their lead and forced the game into OT. In the first few minutes, both teams were scoring at a good rate as Eintracht Frankfurt got buckets from Pullen, Schubert and Pons, but the guests didn't roll over and die as they also executed well as 18 year old Dan Gerst hit a jumper to cut the Eintracht Frankfurt lead to 55-45. After Jonathan Torbica and Pons exchanged three pointers, Eintracht Frankfurt still led 58-48, but now it was time for one last push by the Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen as they went on a 12-2 run to recapture the lead 60-59 with a minute to go. In the run, the guests got valuable production from Torbica who hit a difficult runner high of the glass, Pfaff got a steal and coast to coast dunk and then scored later in the paint. The club also got points from 18 year old power forward Alexander Arndt who made a big tip in as well as a Lovric lay in. Arndt then held his cool sinking two free throws for the lead. Then it seemed like the happy end of the guests would end as Gruehn made an offensive rebound and put back for the 61-60 advantage, but the guests forced OT with a Lewe free throw as the game was dead locked at 61-61. 'We did everything wrong in their comeback. We gave up too many fast break points, didn't rebound well and second chance points', added Konstantin Schubert (195-SF-98). 'The fans helped us back into the game. We always believed in ourselves and fought to the end and our shots finally began to fall more', said Julian Pfaff. Eintracht Frankfurt was shooting 37% from the field and 19% from outside while the Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen were shooting 39% from the field and 15% from outside. Eintracht Frankfurt had the 36-31 rebound advantage, but 28 turnovers while the guests had 25 turnovers.
In the OT, the Schoder Junior Giraffen langen got the lead back 62-61 on a Pfaff free throw, but Eintracht Frankfurt then went out on a 7-2 run to take the 68-63 lead and would never look back again. Eintracht Frankfurt were playing like on a mission something what head coach Jan Eichberger probably wonders why it doesn't happen more on a consistent rate as they used their various options as Pullen scored inside and Gruehn dropped a trey. The guests continued to fight to stay in range as Torbica scored with his left hand and Pfaff hit a three pointer to cut Eintracht Frankfurt's lead to 74-69, but they couldn't get the needed stops to get closer. Gerst gave the guests one last gasp of hope with a lay in cutting the Eintracht Frankfurt lead to 75-71 with a jumper, but the club then slammed the door tight on the guests they went on a 7-3 run to close out the game as Schubert hit free throws and Pons a trey for the 80-71 advantage. Before the guests could react, Pons made a steal and scored for the 82-71 lead. Lovric closed out the game with a three pointer to spice up his stat afternoon as Eintracht Frankfurt won their third game of the season 82-74 and remain unbeaten. 'I liked how we came out in OT and always fought. Gruehn was also key with his three pointer getting us ahead', stressed Konstantin Schubert (195-SF-98). 'We were tired at the end and when there are five team fouls, it is always hard to play tactical basketball', said Julian Pfaff. Eintracht Frankfurt was led by Konstantin Schubert (195-SF-98) with 23 points. Cosmo Gruehn added 19 points and Niklas Pons added 13 points. The Schoder Junior Giraffen Langen were led by Julian Pfaff with 20 poinbts. Christian Lovric scored 13 points and Dan Gerst added 12 points. Eintracht Frankfurt shot 40% from the field and 28% from the three point line while the Schoder Junior Giraffen langen shot 41% from the field and 27% from the three point line. Eintracht Frankfurt had the 39-33 rebound edge and 29 turnovers while the guests coughed up the ball 30 times.
Every season there are always numerous new players that arrive in the Pro B to show their extraordinary basketball abilities with the hope of being able to showcase their talent to a vast array of people and hoping to continue to develop and make the next step at a higher level. The Dragons Rhondorf and Bayer Giants Leverkusen have three of these players that squared off against each other in the Dragon Dome with the one player big dawg Aaron Nelson that stands 203cm that cleans up in the... [read more]
Every season there are always numerous new players that arrive in the Pro B to show their extraordinary basketball abilities with the hope of being able to showcase their talent to a vast array of people and hoping to continue to develop and make the next step at a higher level. The Dragons Rhondorf and Bayer Giants Leverkusen have three of these players that squared off against each other in the Dragon Dome with the one player big dawg Aaron Nelson that stands 203cm that cleans up in the paint area and at times is unstoppable and only content when he gets a double double as he averaged double double stats as a senior at S. Indiana and as a rookie in Chile with Los Leones de Quilpue. The other two players stood on the other side as one guy is a pure scorer and has the same last name as an ex American president. Kerry Carter who played at St Mary (NCAA) and last season had a 5 game stint in Europe's best league in Spain Endesa with Iberostar Tenerife CB Canarias and racked up 9 points in 10 minutes against top club Real Madrid. The last player in this trio is an American that like Nelson loves to get physical inside and post double doubles and loves Manchester United. Brandon Nazione played at Eastern Michigan and has mixed it up in the Pro B this season and had his first very tough match up against Nelson. This game not only matched up three top players who wanted to do as much as possible to help lead their club to victory, but was also the homecoming of German Tim Schonborn who played three seasons with the Dragons amassing 78 games. With so many interesting side stories to the contest, one had the tendency to forget that the most important aspect to the evening was two teams battling for a win as the 2-2 Dragons Rhondorf were looking to keep their home record spotless while the Bayer Giants Leverkusen also 2-2 were still looking for their first road victory of the season, but that still had to wait as they lost their fourth game in a row in Rhondorf since 2008 92-87 in OT. In the head to head battle Kerry Carter finished with 31 points having a 27 efficiency rate while Aaron Nelson finished with 26 points and nine boards and also a 27 efficiency rate, but the Rhondorf American won the game. After the game, Nelson was torn and tattered as Leverkusen had really made him work hard for his pay check. 'I take every game the same. We knew that Carter was a good scorer and we had to try to focus on him more, but also take away the rest of the team. He had a very good game and I am just glad we came away with the win', stressed Illinois native Aaron Nelson. Carter didn't show it with his game face still on after the game, but one could see that he was very peeved at the loss. 'I never caught up in these type of matchups. Some players get overhyped while others are off the radar. Nelson is a great player and had a great game. I go into every game the same way no matter who we play', warned Bayer Giants Leverkusen scoring ace Kerry Carter.
The Bayer Giants Leverkusen were unable to connect in their first three possessions, but then got some buckets from ex Dragon Tim Schonborn and 31 year old German Gotz Twiehof scored for the early 4-2 advantage, but then it was time for the Canadian sensation Mike Lucier who gave the word scoring a new special meaning as he rattled off seven unanswered points giving Rhondorf the 9-4 lead. He can always dazzle you with his trey, but he got aggressive early in the paint as he scored twice and then made a steal and went coast to coast for the dunk. Rhondorf continued to carry the momentum upping their lead to 13-6 as Aaron Nelson scored as did Thomas Michel. However one can only control a guy like Kerry Carter so long as he had been stifled by Rhondorf in the first five minutes, but then got his motor going as he carried the Bayer Giants on a 13-4 run giving them the 19-17 lead as he nailed three trey's. Leverkusen had found their offensive rhythm and closed out the first quarter strong with the fourth three pointer of Carter and an Alexander Blessing lay in. New York native Will Trawick finished the first quarter with a timely three pointer cutting the Leverkusen lead to 23-22. 'I was really happy with how Patrick Reusch (185-G-93) played. It wasn't easy for him to come in and replace Viktor Frankl-Maus. He did a good job on offense and finding the open man. You can never really control a Carter. Take away his 10 points and we would have given up 13 points and the game would have looked a lot different', stressed Dragons Rhondorf CEO Boris Kaminski. The Bayer Giants Leverkusen were shooting 47% from the field and 50% from outside while the Dragons Rhondorf were shooting 40% from the field and 20% from outside. Rhondorf had the slim 12-10 rebound edge, but five turnovers while Leverkusen had four turnovers.
In the second quarter, the Bayer Giants Leverkusen got off to a rough start once again not executing on their first three possessions, while Rhondorf went on a 10-1 run to extend their lead to 32-24. In the run, Rhondorf got solid production from Aaron 'big dawg' Nelson scoring inside twice, Will Trawick also got aggressive finishing in the paint and Sascha Tratnjek scored. The Bayer Giants Leverkusen were just careless in their sets and pulled off two quick possessions without really getting settled. But then came the turning point of the second quarter as the Bayer Giants Leverkusen switched to zone propelling them on a 9-0 run as Carter once again got going again scoring seven points getting the guests the 33-32 advantage. Carter scored twice in the lane and once from the parking lot. 17 year old German Anton Geretzki stopped the run connecting on a pretty high rainbow giving Rhondorf the 35-33 lead which didn't hold up long as American rookie Brandon Nazione controlled an offensive rebound and made the put back tying the game at 35-35. Trawick made a free throw and lay in sending Rhondorf into halftime with the tight 39-36 lead. 'We started well, but they came back when they went to zone taking away our strength with Nelson and Lucier. We gave up an open three pointer to Carter which should never happen', added Dragons Rhondorf CEO Boris Kaminski. The Dragons Rhondorf were shooting 31% from the field and 23% from the three point line while the Bayer Giants Leverkusen were shooting 41% from the field and 33% from the three point line. Rhondorf had the 27-22 rebound edge and eight turnovers while Leverkusen had nine turnovers.
In the third quarter, the Dragons Rhondorf got off to another good start which was benefited by their two opening stops which led to an 8-2 run lifting their lead to 47-38. Geretzki started the run with his second trey and Nelson scored in bunches making it look so easy. But basketball always remains a game of runs as Rhondorf didn't execute on the next few possessions which enabled Leverkusen to tie the game at 47-47 benefited by an overwhelming 9-0 run. In the run the ex BBL team got some free throws, a reverse lay up by Carter, and a Schonborn lay in and trey. The game now was a dog fight as a team would take the lead and then the other would match them. Nazione made a massive dunk and Schonborn continued to be aggressive from all areas of the court and made an acrobatic lay in tying the game at 52-52. The Bayer Giants Leverkusen closed out the third quarter with the 61-57 lead as they got some instant offense from Blessing who dropped a three and made a steal and went coast to coast for the lay in. Carter and Nazione finished with two lay ins. 'We got more stops and let our defense dictate our offense instead of the other way around. I just wish that we could of done that more throughout the game', said ex St Mary's guard Kerry Carter. 'We turned the ball over too much and they hit shots. That is when basketball becomes a game of runs. They saw the ball go in and automatically they played better offense and defense. That always feels good', added Dragons Rhondorf forward Will Trawick. The Bayer Giants Leverkusen were shooting 47% from the field and 35% from the parking lot while the Dragons Rhondorf were shooting 35% from the field and 29% from the parking lot. Rhondorf had the 34-31 rebound advantage, but 16 turnovers while Leverkusen had 14 turnovers.
In the fourth quarter, despite not executing on their first two possessions, the Bayer Giants Leverkusen soon got going taking a healthy lead and it seemed like they would carry it back home, but let the game slip away in the last four minutes letting Rhondorf sneak back and force OT. Rhondorf started off on a 4-0 run as German Patrick Reusch (185-G-93) nailed free throws and Lucier scored inside to dead lock the game at 61-61. Then Leverkusen upped their defensive intensity and rushed out on a stellar 7-2run to lead 69-63. In the run, Leverkusen was fortified by Carter with two lay ups, a Nazione reverse lay up showing on more than one occasion during the game that he can play like a guard at the 203cm frame, and a Michael Kuczmann jumper. Rhondorf continued to battle back with Nelson free throws and a Reusch lay in to cut the Leverkusen lead to 69-67. However then it seemed like the Bayer Giants Leverkusen would slam the door on Rhondorf with a timely 9-0 run as crunch-time was approaching. In the run, Leverkusen was aided by a Carter trey and Nazione lay in off a second chance and then a hard dunk off a steal and coast to coast run. Leverkusen was aided by their two best American imports and it seemed like they couldn't falter now with three minutes remaining. However behind the massive support of their fans, Rhondorf continued to chip away at the lead and come back. Rhondorf made the game dramatic going on an unbelievable 11-0 run to retake the lead 78-77 with a minute to play. In the run, Rhondorf got potent production from Aaron Nelson who got to the free throw line three times and helped the team come back. 'Leverkusen made it tough for me all night. They made me work for every bucket. I knew at this time that I had to assert my dominance and get to the free throw line, get buckets and rebounds', added Aaron Nelson. The Dragon Dome went out of control when Will Trawick nailed the go ahead three for the 78-77 Rhondorf lead. 'My shot was huge. It felt amazing when it went in. We came from being down despite them having control. I sucked the momentum out of them and gave some energy to our fans while we took the momentum into OT. I never think about shooting, because the more you do the more you tend to miss. My coach and teammates always give me the confidence to keep shooting', stressed ex Emory (NCAA3) guard Will Trawick. The Bayer Giants Leverkusen had the chance to win the game down the stretch, but Carter attempted an air ball and then missed a lay up. 'I should of made those two shots regardless if I was tired or not', warned Kerry Carter. Bastian Winterhalter then connected on free throws and Nazione put the game into OT with two free throws tying the game at 79-79. The Dragons Rhondorf were shooting 34% from the field and 30% from outside while the Bayer Giants Leverkusen were shooting 46% from the field and 27% from outside. Rhondorf had the 42-37 rebound edge, but 20 turnovers while Leverksuen had 19 turnovers.
In the OT it was the Rhondorf German kid's show of Reusch and Falkenstein that led the club past the Bayer Giants Leverkusen. The Dragons Rhondorf went on a quick 5-2 run to lead 84-81. The run was sparked by the clever play by Patrick Reusch (185-G-93) who showed a lot of responsibility scoring inside, then drawing a foul and nailing free throws and then making a steal. Lucier added free throws. The Bayer Giants Leverkusen made one last push going on a 6-2 run to cut the Rhondorf advantage to 85-84. In the run, Leverkusen was sparked by a Blessing fingertip roll in and two buckets in the paint by Brandon 'the beast' Nazione. After a Michel free throw came the closing dagger into the heart of Leverkusen as 18 year German David Falkenstein who only practices once a week with the team stepped into a passing lane made the steal and went coast to coast for the lay in and 88-85 lead. Lucier and Reusch closed out the game with free throws as Rhondorf stayed unbeaten at home. 'The kids played great. Reusch played with a lot of confidence and Falkenstein doesn't practice much with us, but still knows all the plays was huge. Our focus was too make it tough on Carter at the end and we did a good job', stressed Aaron Nelson. 'We should of played tougher and smarter in OT. A few turnovers at the end cost us the game. We played good defense, but they just scored a little more', added ex eastern Michigan forward Brandon Nazione. 'Every guy on our team can give good minutes. Falkenstein and Reuch played good defense and had good drives. They were huge for us', warned Will Trawick. The Dragons Rhondorf were led by Aaron nelson with 26 points and nine rebounds. Will Trawick added 18 points and Mike Lucier 16 points while Patrick Reusch (185-G-93) scored 10 points. The Bayer Giants Leverkusen were led by Kerry Carter with 31 points, four rebounds, six assists and five steals. Brandon Nazione added 21 points and 12 rebounds. Tim Schonborn supplied 12 points and nine rebounds. The Dragons Rhondorf shot 34% from the field and 29% from the three point line while the Bayer Giants Leverkusen shot 46% from the field and 23% from the three point line. Rhondorf had the 46-43 rebound edge and 22 turnovers and Leverkusen coughed up the ball 24 times.
Wes Washpun (185-PG-93, college: N.Iowa) is a 23 year old 185cm point guard from Cedar Rapids, iowa that will be starting his professional basketball career in Germany with the MHP RIESEN Ludwigsburg (Germany-BBL). He began his basketball career in 2011 with Tennessee (NCAA). He then moved to N.Iowa (NCAA) in 2013 and in his first season played 31 games averaging 8.3ppg, 3.5rpg, 3.8apg, FGP: 46.9%, 3PT: 34.3%, FT: 68.9%. As a junior he played 35 games averaging 7.6ppg, 2.5rpg, 2.6apg, FGP... [read more]
Wes Washpun (185-PG-93, college: N.Iowa) is a 23 year old 185cm point guard from Cedar Rapids, iowa that will be starting his professional basketball career in Germany with the MHP RIESEN Ludwigsburg (Germany-BBL). He began his basketball career in 2011 with Tennessee (NCAA). He then moved to N.Iowa (NCAA) in 2013 and in his first season played 31 games averaging 8.3ppg, 3.5rpg, 3.8apg, FGP: 46.9%, 3PT: 34.3%, FT: 68.9%. As a junior he played 35 games averaging 7.6ppg, 2.5rpg, 2.6apg, FGP: 51.1%, 3PT: 39.5%, FT: 68.1%. As a senior he played 35 games averaging 14.2ppg, 4.0rpg, 5.2apg, 1.1spg, FGP: 51.9%, 3PT: 27.9%, FT: 72.1%. This past summer he took part in the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament (Pre-NBA Draft): 3 games: 8.7ppg, 3.3rpg, 4.3apg and NBA Pro Summer League in Orlando (Los Angeles Clippers): 5 games: 4.0ppg, 1.4rpg. He spoke to eurobasket about basketball earlier this summer after signing in Germany.
Wes thanks for talking to eurobasket.com. Where are you at the moment and how has your summer been? I am currently in Iowa and my summer has been going on!
Congrats on signing with German club MHP Riesen Ludwigbsurg. What was the deciding factor that made you want to start your professional career in Germany? Germany felt like a great fit for me right away and Coach Patrick and I hit it off right away!
What do you know about the country Germany and it's basketball. Many ex N Iowa players have played in Germany like John Little, Ben Jacobsen, Deon Mitchell or Mark Sonnen to name a few. I don't know much about Germany yet but excited to learn as much as I can !
Did you have some talks with head coach John Patrick? He always has had aliking to getting N Iowa players as he reeled in John Little and Ben Jacobsen years ago when he was coaching team BG Goettingen. What kind of an impression did you have of John Patrick? Did you sense like you both spoke the same basketball language? We connected right of the bat we definitely speak the same language when it comes to basketball
You have had a very exciting summer as you recently played in the NBA Summer league with the Los Angeles Clippers. What kind of experience was this? Playing in the summer league was great and I had a wonderful experience.
Was the team basketball aspect which you get more of in the NCAA on the back burner here as players play for their stats to get noticed? No not really.
The Los Angeles Clippers were 0-5 and there were games where you had decent minutes and then games where you didn't. What do you feel like was the biggest asset that you got here that will help you when you come to Germany to start your professional basketball career? I feel like my defense and my ability to run a team will translate to the pro game!!
There was a lot of competition on the court, but what was it like practicing with and watching New Orleans draft pick French man David Michineau? When you watch a guy like this, do you sense like there is any real difference in skill between an undrafted player like yourself and a drafted player?
As a competitor you never feel like there is a difference but David and I competed and played against each other all week it was a great match up!
What was it like playing for Doc Rivers and what kind of general advice did he give you?
Doc wasn't our head coach but the coaches were telling me to be more aggressive on offense look to score more!
Let's talk a bit about your game. You're a point guard that can score, but also find your teammates at ease. How would you describe your game and to what NBA player could you describe your game too? I am a defense first point guard who can find ways to score and be effective on offense I have been called a mix between 'Westbrook and Patrick Beverly.
You're a guy that can fill up the stat sheet, but what is a hidden strength in your game that doesn't get noticed right away? I would say that my defense doesn't get noticed as much because I don't get a lot of steals or anything I just don't get scored on a lot.
You really broke out as a senior and had many amazing games. If you had to pick one game that was your best and favorite which one would it be? Possible your 21 point, eight assist game in the win against North Carolina, or your buzzer beater against Evansville or your 28 point, 11 assist game against iowa State? I would definitely say the North Carolina game because taking down the number one was great!
Your college career ended in the NCAA tournament with a bitter 92-88 loss against Texas A & M, but you gave your all with nine points and 10 assists, but you fouled out. Is this a game that you will remember for a long time? Yeah I will never forget that game, but I have put it behind me.
How did head coach Ben Jacobson groom and prepare you best for a professional basketball career? He made me a man he helped me grow up that's how he helped me the most!
How won a one on one in practice you or Matt Bohannon?
If you had to construct an NBA Rushmore, which 4 NBA legends would you choose? Jordan, Karem, Magic,Bird
Now that Lebron won another title for the Cavs where does this win put him in the alltime best debate against Michael Jordan? Still behind Jordan.
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