I was watching the game (last night in OAKA) between the most successful team in the European courts the last 20 years (Panathinaikos) against a team which only a couple of years ago was simply dreaming its participation in the Euroleague (Khimki) and i totally realized (long after the defeats by Real Madrid in Madrid, Olympiakos in OAKA, Fenerbahce Ulker which by the way diminished 2 days ago by Cantu! , Ikaros Kallitheas and last night against the newcomer in Euroleague, team of Khimki in OAKA once more) and realized totally that the Greek Emperor is no longer with us....
The team which under Obradovic's coaching could win the most difficult games all over Europe, the team with the victorious spirit, the roster which in the most difficult situation could won (at least) its home court games with an OAKA which was counting a single digits loses in the last 15 years, the season 2012-2013 will be just the beginning of the fall of theis Green Empire. A team which is already counting two home loses and its expected to count even more unless big changes takes place immediately so as to safe (at least) its honor!
Its amazing how the legendary team of Panathinaikos in less than 4 months became simply a dream, a memory, or simply a shadow of its past. A team with no beginning and no end, a team which its players DO NOT BELIEVE in victory and a team which can lose by any opponent at any given place i.e. Ikaros Kallitheas, Khimki in OAKA, etc. with players that mostly havent even realized the "extraordinary burden" and the history of their green jerseys, players that they simply go with the flow, receiving their salaries and have no fighting spirit at all, but of course the players are not to be blamed at all. They do what they can! Thats the cruel reality and nothing else!
It is obvious that all the Green opponents realized that Panathinaikos is Diamantidis, but Diamantidis is only one player! So, with no assistance at all, 3D and Big Sofo cant do miracles and thats a cruel reality once more - at this stage since the Greens are already counting 2 loses in the Greek league and another 3 loses in the Euroleague to sum up a 5 of 10 games loses (a 50% result) and with the Management doing actually nothing or lets say that is moving on a very slow mode since after all these results in the 10 official games of the Greens, there is not a real change in the team, (only the announcement that the American power forward Hilton Armstrong is history, so what?) with players that are not really counted from Coach Argiris Pedoulakis but above all there is a huge question about the transfers took place last Summer. Knowing that the budget is not the same, but also knowing that finally the new management did spent some serious money on the team one may wonder why not Nikos Pappas? Why not Vladimir Jankovic? Why not Alexis Kiritsis? Why not Theodoros Papaloukas? (who, by the way is still a free agent and in discussions with the Italians of Siena), these players are (probably) costing less than most of the players in the current roster. What was the thinking behind signing a number of players currently being in the Green roster but cant really offer not the 50% of the player who left the team in the summer and are doing marvelously abroad (especially Kostas Kaimakoglou, Nic Calathis, Ian Vougioukas, David Logan and the rest of the greens left the team, last summer)
In any case and to put it in a nutshell the reality is brutal, a coliseum team has ended and deleted its continuation in the basketball history in no time! The Greens needs a miracle to survive in Euroleague as it is obvious that all their opponents from now on will be playing against a team and a roster full of scares, all the opponents will be traveling to OAKA with one reason and one target only to beat the Greens in their home court, that is something undoubtedly unique for until last seasons Obradovics troops. This season we are facing the new era of Argiris Pedoulakis . The team needs to change many things TODAY in order to be able to depart of the European courts, at least with honor since Im not even thinking and dare to say that this team will do something better than simply not qualified in the Top-8 teams of Europe, last night defeat (and the way it actually came) taught me a lot and I have no illusions any more......
A1 Round 3 of Play-Offs. AGOR overcome Kolossos to advance - 17 hours ago
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AGOR - Kolossos HH 69-55 AGOR advanced into quarterfinal stage. They overcame Kolossos in the decider. The game was mostly controlled by AGOR. Kolossos HH managed to win second period 23-15. But it was not enough to take a lead and get a victory that evening. It was a good game for forward Haralampos Giannopoulos (200-89) who led his team to a victory with 20 points. American guard Walter Lemon-Jr (190-92, college: Bradley) contributed with 20 points (went 8 for 8 at the free throw line)... [read more]
AGOR advanced into quarterfinal stage. They overcame Kolossos in the decider. The game was mostly controlled by AGOR. Kolossos HH managed to win second period 23-15. But it was not enough to take a lead and get a victory that evening. It was a good game for forward Haralampos Giannopoulos (200-89) who led his team to a victory with 20 points. American guard Walter Lemon-Jr (190-92, college: Bradley) contributed with 20 points (went 8 for 8 at the free throw line) for the winners. Four AGOR players scored in double figures. The former international forward Panagiotis Vasilopoulos (202-84) answered with 15 points and American forward Juvonte Reddic (206-92, college: VCU) added 10 points in the effort for Kolossos HH. Both coaches used bench players which allowed the starters a little rest for the next games. Top scorers: AGOR: W.Lemon Jr. 20+1reb+2ast, H.Giannopoulos 20+4reb+1ast, R.Arnold 14+6reb+1ast, G.Talton 10+2reb+4ast, T.Fitzpatrick 3+14reb+1ast, G.Panaretakis 2 Kolossos HH: P.Vasilopoulos 15+4reb+3ast, J.Reddic 10+4reb, R.Ahonen 10+4reb, E.Watson 9+5reb, C.Saloustros 5+6reb+1ast, T.Releford 4+4reb+3ast
Giannis Antetokounmpo's 30 points make him top Greek player abroad of the week - 3 hours ago
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We bring you last week's top performances from Greeks who are playing abroad and who all have had prior experience of national team duties at youth or senior level. This week's number one is an international swingman Giannis Antetokounmpo (211-94, agency: Octagon Europe). He could not help the Milwaukee Bucks (42-40) in their last game. Despite Antetokounmpo's very good performance the Milwaukee Bucks (42-40) were crushed 118-93 on the road by the Toronto Raptors.
We bring you last week's top performances from Greeks who are playing abroad and who all have had prior experience of national team duties at youth or senior level.
#1. This week's number one is an international swingman Giannis Antetokounmpo (211-94, agency: Octagon Europe, currently plays in NBA). He could not help the Milwaukee Bucks (42-40) in their last game. Despite Antetokounmpo's very good performance the Milwaukee Bucks (42-40) were crushed 118-93 on the road by the Toronto Raptors.
He was the top scorer with 30 points. Antetokounmpo also added 9 rebounds, passed 3 assists and added 3 blocks in 41 minutes on the court.
It's Antetokounmpo's fourth season with the team.
He has individually a very good year with high stats. Antetokounmpo averages: 22.9ppg, 8.8rpg, 5.4apg, 1.8bpg, 1.7spg, 2FGP: 56.2%(651-1159), 3FGP: 27.7% and FT: 75.8% in 85 games he played so far.
He has a dual citizenship: Greek and Nigerian.
Antetokounmpo is currently a member of the Greek senior national team.
#2. Second place goes to an international guard Konstantinos Sloukas (197-90, currently plays in Euroleague). He contributed to an easy victory against the closely-ranked Panathinaikos (19-11) 79-61 in the Euroleague last Tuesday.
Sloukas scored 6 points and added 4 assists.
Fenerbahce Istanbul (18-12) is placed fifth in the Euroleague.
They ended the series of three consecutive loses.
Sloukas' overall stats this season are: 9.5ppg, 2.1rpg, 4.6apg, 2FGP: 45.5%, 3FGP: 43.3% and FT: 88.1%.
He is in the roster of the Greek senior national team.
#3. The Greek player who performed third best last week abroad was former international power forward Ian Vougioukas (212-85, college: St.Louis, currently plays in VTB United League). Vougioukas led his Russian team Lokomotiv to a victory against the bottom-ranked Parma (1-23) 84-71 in the VTB United League on Wednesday night.
He scored 12 points, had 5 rebounds and dished 3 assists in a mere 19 minutes.
Lokomotiv Kuban (19-5) is placed fourth in group A.
It was his team's sixth consecutive victory in a row.
There are only three games left until the end of the VTB United League Regular Season. So now every game will be critical.
It's Vougioukas' first season with the team.
Vougioukas has relatively good stats this year: 10.1ppg, 4.1rpg, 1.6apg, 2FGP: 59.0%(85-144) and FT: 78.3% in 24 games.
Former Olympiacos S.F.P. Pireus starter played for the Greek national team three years ago.
#4. An experienced power forward Fotios Lampropoulos (206-83, currently plays in Argentina) was the major contributor in an Boca Juniors' victory against the ninth-ranked Atenas (18-30) 114-103 in the Argentinian LigaA in Tuesday night's game.
He recorded 27 points (!!!) and grabbed 7 rebounds.
Aerochaco Boca Juniors Capital Feder (17-33) is placed tenth in Sur group.
It was his team's third consecutive victory in a row.
There are only four games left until the end of the Regular Season. So now every game is very crucial.
This season Lampropoulos has very high stats. He averages: 16.5ppg, 8.8rpg and 1.8apg.
Lampropoulos used to play for the Greek U18 national team
back in 2003.
#5. Former international guard Dimitrios Katsivelis (196-91, currently plays in Kazakhstan) contributed to an easy victory against the league outsider Tobol crushing them 99-70 in the Kazakhstan National League last Friday.
He recorded 10 points and added 4 assists.
It was the game of the round between two top 4 ranked teams. BK Astana (16-0) is placed first in the National League.
So far his team won all sixteen games in the Semi-Finals.
Katsivelis' overall stats this season are: 9.9ppg, 4.6rpg, 6.4apg and 2.6spg.
He used to play for the Greek national team
four years ago.
#6. Small forward Stratos Perperoglou (203-84, currently plays in Spain) managed to help FC Barcelona Lassa in a victory against the closely-ranked Unicaja Malaga (18-10) 89-70 in the Spanish Liga Endesa on Sunday night.
Perperoglou scored only 2 points in 10 minutes.
FC Barcelona Lassa (19-9) is placed fifth in the Liga Endesa.
There are only four games left until the end of the Regular Season. So now every game will be important.
This year Perperoglou's overall stats are: 8.0ppg and 2.5rpg in 22 games.
He is an international player who is currently on the senior Greek National Team roster.
#7. Former U20 international swingman Anastasios Traianos (197-87, currently plays in United Kingdom) was not able to help Manchester Giants in their game against Bristol Acadamy Flyers (16-17) in the British BBL.
Traianos recorded only 4 points and grabbed 4 rebounds.
The bottom-ranked Manchester Giants was defeated 89-81 in Bristol by the higher-ranked Acadamy Flyers (#7).
The Regular Season already ended.
Traianos' total stats this season are: 5.4ppg and 2.8rpg.
He used to play for the Greek U20 national team
eleven years ago.
The list of other players, who all have Greek passport but never been selected to any of Greek national teams:
#1.Zach Auguste (208-C-93, agency: Pensack Sports, college: Notre Dame, currently plays in Turkey). He could not help Usak Sportlif (8-19) to beat Tofas (12-15).
Auguste scored 9 points and grabbed 5 rebounds in 20 minutes.
But Usak Sportlif lost 69-82 on the road to the higher-ranked (#9) Tofas.
There are only three games left until the end of the Regular Season. So now every game will be critical.
This year Auguste has relatively solid stats: 11.7ppg and 7.5rpg in 23 games he played so far.
He is a naturalized American.
Strangely Auguste has never played in Greece.
#2.Nikolaos Stylianou (198-F-88, college: W.Texas A&M, currently plays in Cyprus) led Keravnos to a 1-point victory against the closely-ranked AEK (16-4) 80-79 in the Cypriot Division A on Tuesday night.
He recorded 11 points.
It was the game of the round between two top 4 ranked teams. Keravnos Strovolou (14-1) is placed first in the Division A.
It was his team's tenth consecutive victory in a row.
This season Stylianou has relatively solid stats: 10.9ppg, 3.4rpg and 1.8apg.
He has a dual citizenship: Greek and Cypriot.
#3.Trian Iliadis (190-G-89, college: ODU, currently plays in Australia) led Wanneroo to a victory over the ninth-ranked Lightning (3-5) crushing them 98-78 in the Australian State League (second division) in Friday night's game.
Iliadis was MVP of the game. He scored 19 points in 24 minutes.
Joondalup City Wanneroo Wolves (5-1) are placed third in SBL group.
But this is still an early stage of the season and everything may happen.
Iliadis is one of the most experienced players in a team as it's his fourth year in Wanneroo's roster.
Iliadis has individually a very good season with high stats. He averages: 19.6ppg, 3.8rpg, 4.2apg and 2.6spg in five games.
Iliadis is another player who holds two passports: Greek and Australian.
Despite his Greek nationality, Iliadis previously played for the Australian university national team and is probably not eligible to play for the Greek team.
#4. Experienced Vassilis Kounas (194-G-84, currently plays in Cyprus) was not able to help one of league's weakest teams Apoel (11-9) in their last game on Tuesday. Despite Kounas' good performance Apoel was defeated 73-64 at home by the second-ranked AEK.
He was the second best scorer with 13 points. Kounas also added 5 rebounds.
Kounas is one of the most experienced players in a team as it's his fourth year in Apoel's roster.
His total stats this season are: 7.6ppg, 2.4rpg and 2.6apg.
Kounas has both Greek and Cypriot nationalities.
#5.Maximiliano Sole (198-F-88, agency: Duran International, currently plays in Spain) contributed to a Real Madrid II's victory against the seventh-ranked Villarrobledo (15-13) 79-71 in the Spanish EBA (fourth division) last Saturday.
He recorded 16 points and grabbed 6 rebounds in 38 minutes.
Real Madrid II (22-6) is placed first in Group B.
It was his team's fourth consecutive victory in a row.
There are only two games left until the end of the Regular Season.
This year Sole has relatively solid stats: 11.9ppg, 8.4rpg, 2.4apg and 1.6spg in 28 games.
He also holds two passports: Uruguayan and Greek.
#6.Patrick Calathes (207-F-85, college: St.Joseph's, currently plays in Italy) was not able to secure a victory for AV Cantu in their game against Vanoli Cremona in the Italian Serie A. Calathes cannot count Sunday's game as one of the best ones.
He recorded only 2 points.
His team was defeated 93-82.
Calathes' total stats this season are: 7.0ppg and 4.7rpg.
He is a naturalized American.
Calathes used to play for Costa Cafe Marousi in Greek league.
#7.Max Calligeros (197-F/C-92, currently plays in Australia) helped Sturt Sabres win their game against the leader North Adelaide Rockets 77-64 in the Australian State League (second division) in Saturday night's game.
He scored 8 points in 15 minutes.
This year Calligeros' total stats are: 4.8ppg and 2.3rpg in four games.
He has dual citizenship: Greek and Australian.
#8.Grant Fiorentinos (208-F/C-92, college: SIU Edwardsville, currently plays in New Zealand) couldn't help Hawks (1-6) in their last game on Tuesday. Despite Fiorentinos' good performance the bottom-ranked Hawks were badly defeated 106-89 in Christchurch by the higher-ranked Rams (#3).
He recorded 12 points and grabbed 7 rebounds.
This season Fiorentinos has very high stats. He averages: 15.3ppg, 6.4rpg and 1.3apg.
Fiorentinos holds both British and Greek passports.
Despite his Greek nationality, Fiorentinos previously played for the British U20 national team and probably cannot be called to the Greek team.
#9.Emils Duselis (192-G/F, currently plays in Australia) helped Hills Hornets win their game against the sixth-ranked Manly Warringah Sea Eagles 74-71 in the Australian State League (second division) on Saturday night.
He scored 11 points and grabbed 7 rebounds in 27 minutes.
This year Duselis has relatively solid stats: 12.6ppg, 5.3rpg and 4.9apg in eight games.
He has Greek and Australian nationalities.
Skordilis' double-double lands him A2 Player of the Week award - 2 days ago
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29-year old center Gaios Skordilis (207-C-87, agency: Diamond Sports) put on an extraordinary performance in the last round for Faros and receives a Eurobasket.com A2 Player of the Week award for round 28. He had a double-double of 23 points and 11 rebounds, while his team crushed Irakleio (#14, 7-20) with 19-point margin 81-62. Faros maintains the 4th position in Greek A2. They would have been even better if they hadn't lost a few games earlier this season. Faros will need more victories... [read more]
29-year old center Gaios Skordilis (207-C-87, agency: Diamond Sports) put on an extraordinary performance in the last round for Faros and receives a Eurobasket.com A2 Player of the Week award for round 28. He had a double-double of 23 points and 11 rebounds, while his team crushed Irakleio (#14, 7-20) with 19-point margin 81-62. Faros maintains the 4th position in Greek A2. They would have been even better if they hadn't lost a few games earlier this season. Faros will need more victories to improve their 21-6 record. It's Skordilis' second year at Faros and it's hard to imagine this team without him. Skordilis has impressive league stats. He is in league's top in rebounds (9th best: 6.7rpg) and averages solid 69.5% FGP.
Second best performed player last round was Nikos Kokkalis (198-G/F-85) of Ethnikos. He is a swingman in his first season at Ethnikos. In the last game Kokkalis recorded impressive double-double of 27 points and 10 rebounds. Of course he led Ethnikos to another comfortable win 88-71 over the lower-ranked GS Larissas (#15, 5-23) being unquestionably team leader. Ethnikos' 6th position in the standings has not changed. His team lost some distance to top teams. But 15-13 record is not bad and everything may still change. Kokkalis is a newcomer at Ethnikos and quickly became one of team's most reliable players. He belongs to the best scorers in the league with 17.3ppg (#3). He also registered 4.6 boards per game.
Third place about best performers goes to another Ethnikos' star - center Kostas Macheras (205-C-85). Macheras scored 24 points and grabbed sixteen rebounds (!!!). He was another key player of Ethnikos, helping his team with a 88-71 easy win against the lower-ranked GS Larissas (#15, 5-23). Ethnikos needs these victories very badly if they think about getting closer to top teams. Their record at this point is 15 victories and 13 lost games. Macheras has a great season in Greece. After 28 games, he made it on the list of the league's leaders in points with 14.9ppg (7th best) and rebounds with 9.4rpg (#1 in league).
The Player of the week is chosen based on efficiency calculation, but also including game result, importance of the game, if played recorded double-double/triple-double, etc. The efficiency formula is a combination of various formulas used by different basketball organizations/leagues. We got involved many basketball scouts and journalists to assure it's accuracy. The formula: 1.5*PTS + 3* (REB+AST+ST+BL-TO) - 2*BSAG - 4*PF + 3*PFRV + 4* (2FGPM+3FGPM) + 1.5*FTM - 3* (2FGPA-2FGPM) - 3* (3FGPA-3FGPM) - (FTA-FTM)
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