I was watching the game (last night in OAKA) between the most successful team in the European courts the last 20 years (Panathinaikos) against a team which only a couple of years ago was simply dreaming its participation in the Euroleague (Khimki) and i totally realized (long after the defeats by Real Madrid in Madrid, Olympiakos in OAKA, Fenerbahce Ulker which by the way diminished 2 days ago by Cantu! , Ikaros Kallitheas and last night against the newcomer in Euroleague, team of Khimki in OAKA once more) and realized totally that the Greek Emperor is no longer with us....
The team which under Obradovic's coaching could win the most difficult games all over Europe, the team with the victorious spirit, the roster which in the most difficult situation could won (at least) its home court games with an OAKA which was counting a single digits loses in the last 15 years, the season 2012-2013 will be just the beginning of the fall of theis Green Empire. A team which is already counting two home loses and its expected to count even more unless big changes takes place immediately so as to safe (at least) its honor!
Its amazing how the legendary team of Panathinaikos in less than 4 months became simply a dream, a memory, or simply a shadow of its past. A team with no beginning and no end, a team which its players DO NOT BELIEVE in victory and a team which can lose by any opponent at any given place i.e. Ikaros Kallitheas, Khimki in OAKA, etc. with players that mostly havent even realized the "extraordinary burden" and the history of their green jerseys, players that they simply go with the flow, receiving their salaries and have no fighting spirit at all, but of course the players are not to be blamed at all. They do what they can! Thats the cruel reality and nothing else!
It is obvious that all the Green opponents realized that Panathinaikos is Diamantidis, but Diamantidis is only one player! So, with no assistance at all, 3D and Big Sofo cant do miracles and thats a cruel reality once more - at this stage since the Greens are already counting 2 loses in the Greek league and another 3 loses in the Euroleague to sum up a 5 of 10 games loses (a 50% result) and with the Management doing actually nothing or lets say that is moving on a very slow mode since after all these results in the 10 official games of the Greens, there is not a real change in the team, (only the announcement that the American power forward Hilton Armstrong is history, so what?) with players that are not really counted from Coach Argiris Pedoulakis but above all there is a huge question about the transfers took place last Summer. Knowing that the budget is not the same, but also knowing that finally the new management did spent some serious money on the team one may wonder why not Nikos Pappas? Why not Vladimir Jankovic? Why not Alexis Kiritsis? Why not Theodoros Papaloukas? (who, by the way is still a free agent and in discussions with the Italians of Siena), these players are (probably) costing less than most of the players in the current roster. What was the thinking behind signing a number of players currently being in the Green roster but cant really offer not the 50% of the player who left the team in the summer and are doing marvelously abroad (especially Kostas Kaimakoglou, Nic Calathis, Ian Vougioukas, David Logan and the rest of the greens left the team, last summer)
In any case and to put it in a nutshell the reality is brutal, a coliseum team has ended and deleted its continuation in the basketball history in no time! The Greens needs a miracle to survive in Euroleague as it is obvious that all their opponents from now on will be playing against a team and a roster full of scares, all the opponents will be traveling to OAKA with one reason and one target only to beat the Greens in their home court, that is something undoubtedly unique for until last seasons Obradovics troops. This season we are facing the new era of Argiris Pedoulakis . The team needs to change many things TODAY in order to be able to depart of the European courts, at least with honor since Im not even thinking and dare to say that this team will do something better than simply not qualified in the Top-8 teams of Europe, last night defeat (and the way it actually came) taught me a lot and I have no illusions any more......
EuroLeague: Fenerbahce coast past Panathinaikos in Istanbul - 7 hours ago
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Fenerbahce - Panathinaikos 84:63 Fenerbahce had little trouble firing past Panathinaikos in Istanbul today. Five player scored in double digits for the hosts. Luigi Datome (203-F-87) posted 16 points to lead the home side. Fenerbahce drained 27 points in the opening quarter to open an 11-point lead. Fenerbahce kept Panathinaikos at bay throughout the second term. The hosts established a 44:28 halftime advantage. Panathinaikos narrowed the gap in the third term. The Greek team entered th... [read more]
Fenerbahce - Panathinaikos 84:63
Fenerbahce had little trouble firing past Panathinaikos in Istanbul today. Five player scored in double digits for the hosts. Luigi Datome (203-F-87) posted 16 points to lead the home side. Fenerbahce drained 27 points in the opening quarter to open an 11-point lead. Fenerbahce kept Panathinaikos at bay throughout the second term. The hosts established a 44:28 halftime advantage. Panathinaikos narrowed the gap in the third term. The Greek team entered the fourth quarter down by 15 points 45:60. However Fenerbahce drained 24 points in the fourth frame and sealed the win. Jan Vesely (213-C/F-90) and Ahmet Duverioglu (209-C-93) delivered 13 points apiece in the victory. Mike James (185-PG-90, college: Lamar) responded with 25 points for Panathinaikos. Chris Singleton (206-F-89, college: Florida St.) had 13 points in the loss.
Giannis Antetokounmpo's 33 points make him top Greek player abroad of the week - 20 hours ago
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Here is the weekly review of the top performing Greek players, who play currently abroad. This week's number one is an international swingman Giannis Antetokounmpo (211-94, agency: Octagon Europe). He could not help the Milwaukee Bucks (20-20) in their last game. Despite Antetokounmpo's very good performance the Milwaukee Bucks (20-20) lost 98-111 on the road to the Atlanta Hawks.
Here is the weekly review of the top performing Greek players, who play currently abroad.
#1. This week's number one is an international swingman Giannis Antetokounmpo (211-94, agency: Octagon Europe, currently plays in NBA). He could not help the Milwaukee Bucks (20-20) in their last game. Despite Antetokounmpo's very good performance the Milwaukee Bucks (20-20) lost 98-111 on the road to the Atlanta Hawks.
He was the top scorer with 33 points. Antetokounmpo also added 8 rebounds, passed 6 assists and added 3 blocks (went 7 for 7 at the free throw line) in 40 minutes on the court.
It's Antetokounmpo's fourth season with the team.
He has individually a very good year with high stats. Antetokounmpo averages: 23.4ppg, 8.7rpg, 5.5apg, 2.0bpg, 1.8spg, 2FGP: 57.7%(307-532), 3FGP: 28.6% and FT: 78.2% in 39 games he played so far.
He has a dual citizenship: Greek and Nigerian.
Antetokounmpo is currently a member of the Greek senior national team.
#2. Second place goes to an international center Giorgos Bogris (210-89, currently plays in Spain). He led CB Canarias to a victory over the closely-ranked FC Barcelona (12-4) 71-60 in the Spanish Liga Endesa last Sunday.
Bogris was MVP of the game. He recorded a double-double by scoring 16 points and getting 11 rebounds.
It was the game of the round between two top 4 ranked teams. Iberostar Tenerife CB Canarias (12-4) is placed fourth in the Liga Endesa.
It was his team's third consecutive victory in a row.
Bogris' overall stats this season are: 6.7ppg, 4.1rpg, 2FGP: 51.0% and FT: 41.7%.
He is in the roster of the Greek senior national team.
#3. The Greek player who performed third best last week abroad was former international swingman Michael Bramos (196-87, college: Miami, OH, currently plays in Basketball Champions League). Bramos contributed to an Umana Venezia's victory against the sixth-ranked Joensuun Kataja (6-7) 78-68 in the Basketball Champions League on Tuesday night.
He scored 13 points and grabbed 4 rebounds in 27 minutes.
Umana Reyer Venezia (8-5) is placed third in group B.
Bramos' team will play only one more game in the Basketball Champions League Regular Season. And that game will be critical.
This year Bramos' overall stats are: 8.1ppg, 2.5rpg, 1.2apg, 2FGP: 35.5%, 3FGP: 44.9% and FT: 81.0% in 13 games.
He is a naturalized American.
Bramos played for the Greek national team four years ago.
Strangely he has never played in Greece.
#4. An experienced center Loukas Mavrokefalidis (207-84, currently plays in China) was not able to help Qingdao Eagles (13-15) in their last game on Monday. Despite Mavrokefalidis' very good performance Qingdao Eagles were crushed 125-96 in Dongguan by the much higher-ranked Guandong Tigers (#3).
He recorded a double-double by scoring 33 points and getting 14 rebounds.
It's Mavrokefalidis' first season with the team.
This year Mavrokefalidis has very high stats. He averages: 19.1ppg, 8.4rpg, 2.1apg and 1.4spg.
Mavrokefalidis used to play for the Greek national team
back in 2013.
#5. International forward Thanasis Antetokounmpo (199-92, currently plays in Spain) was the major contributor in Andorra's victory against the closely-ranked Sevilla (7-9) crushing them 95-69 in the Spanish Liga Endesa last Sunday.
He scored 14 points, grabbed 8 rebounds and made 3 blocks in 25 minutes.
MoraBanc Andorra (9-7) is placed eighth in the Liga Endesa.
This year Antetokounmpo's total stats are: 6.8ppg, 3.5rpg and 1.1bpg in 16 games.
He is another player who holds two passports: Nigerian and Greek.
Antetokounmpo plays currently for the Greek national team.
#6. Guard Konstantinos Sloukas (197-90, currently plays in Euroleague) was not able to secure a victory for Fenerbahce (10-7) in their game against Crvena Zvezda (9-8) in the Euroleague.
He scored 7 points and added 4 assists.
The sixth-placed Fenerbahce (10-7) was edged 75-73 in Beograd by the lower-ranked Crvena Zvezda (#8) in the group A of Euroleague.
Sloukas has relatively good stats this season: 11.4ppg, 1.9rpg and 4.9apg.
He is an international player who is currently on the senior Greek National Team roster.
#7. Former international power forward Ian Vougioukas (212-85, college: St.Louis, currently plays in VTB United League) contributed to an easy victory against one of league's weakest teams Kalev/Cramo (2-10) crushing them 95-64 in the VTB United League in Sunday night's game.
Vougioukas scored 10 points in 18 minutes.
Lokomotiv Kuban (10-2) is placed second in the VTB United League.
It was his team's tenth consecutive victory in a row.
Vougioukas has averaged so far 8.9ppg and 3.6rpg in 12 games.
He used to play for the Greek national team
three years ago.
#8. Power forward Konstantinos Kaimakoglou (206-83, currently plays in VTB United League) couldn't help Unics Kazan (10-3) in their game against CSKA (12-1) in the VTB United League.
He scored 6 points, had 5 rebounds and dished 3 assists in 24 minutes.
Unics Kazan lost 91-105 in Moscow to the leading CSKA.
Kaimakoglou is one of the most experienced players in a team as it's his fifth year in Unics Kazan's roster.
Kaimakoglou has averaged so far 9.8ppg, 3.6rpg, 1.9apg and 1.7spg in nine games.
He used to play for the Greek national team
back in 2015.
#9. Former U20 international small forward Leonidas Kaselakis (202-90, currently plays in Kazakhstan) was the main contributor in Astana's victory against the league outsider Kaspiy Aktau (0-10) 72-53 in the Kazakhstan National League last Thursday.
Kaselakis was the best player in that game. He recorded 24 points, 9 rebounds and 4 assists in 37 minutes.
It was the game of the round between two top 4 ranked teams. BK Astana (10-0) is placed first in the National League.
So far his team won all ten games in the Regular Season.
Kaselakis has very impressive stats this year: 17.3ppg, 8.0rpg, 4.8apg and 2.0spg in four games.
He used to play for the Greek U20 national team
seven years ago.
#10. Power forward Fotios Lampropoulos (206-83, currently plays in Argentina) contributed to an Boca Juniors' victory against the tenth-ranked Hispano Americano de Rio Gallegos (8-20) 79-72 in the Argentinian LigaA on Monday night.
Lampropoulos was the top player that evening. He scored 22 points and grabbed 4 rebounds.
Aerochaco Boca Juniors Capital Feder (8-17) is placed ninth in Sur group.
This season Lampropoulos has very high stats. He averages: 15.7ppg, 8.4rpg and 1.6apg.
Lampropoulos is a former U18 international player as fourteen years ago he still played for the Greek national team.
#11. International center Kostas Koufos (213-89, college: Ohio St., currently plays in NBA) contributed to a Sacramento Kings' victory against the Detroit Pistons 100-94 in the NBA in Tuesday night's game.
He recorded 12 points and grabbed 8 rebounds in 22 minutes.
Koufos has averaged so far 6.1ppg and 5.7rpg in 40 games.
He is a naturalized American.
Koufos plays currently for the Greek national team.
Apparently he has never played in Greece.
#12. Former international guard Nikolaos Zisis (197-83, also represented by Octagon Europe, currently plays in Euroleague) couldn't help Brose Baskets in their game against Unics Kazan in the Euroleague.
Zisis scored only 4 points and added 4 assists.
His team was defeated 63-58.
Zisis has averaged so far 7.7ppg, 2.1rpg and 4.9apg.
He used to play for the Greek national team
back in 2015.
#13. Former international guard Dimitrios Katsivelis (196-91, currently plays in VTB United League) is a teammate of previously mentioned Leonidas Kaselakis. But that was another game of his team in VTB United League which we would like to mention.
Katsivelis couldn't help Astana (6-6) in their last game. Despite his good performance Astana was badly defeated 83-66 on the opponent's court by the higher-ranked (#5) Khimky.
Katsivelis scored 10 points and added 6 assists in 34 minutes.
He has averaged so far 9.0ppg, 3.2rpg, 4.6apg and 1.3spg in nine games.
Katsivelis used to play for the Greek national team
four years ago.
#14. Former U19 international forward Konstantinos Mitoglou (208-96, currently plays college basketball in the States) couldn't help the Wake Forest in their game against the University of North Carolina in the NCAA. Despite his very good performance on Wednesday night He scored 13 points, had 7 rebounds and made 3 blocks (went 6 for 6 at the free throw line).
This season Mitoglou has relatively solid stats: 10.8ppg, 6.4rpg and 1.1apg.
He used to play for the Greek U19 national team
back in 2015.
#15. Former U18 international center Ioannis Dimakopoulos (218-94, currently studies in the States) helped Cal-Irvine win their game against the California State University, Fullerton crushing them 87-67 in the NCAA in Saturday night's game.
Dimakopoulos scored 19 points and grabbed 5 rebounds in 21 minutes.
He has reliable stats this year: 11.2ppg, 4.2rpg and 1.3apg in 19 games.
Dimakopoulos used to play for the Greek U18 national team
five years ago.
The list of other players, who all have Greek passport but never been selected to any of Greek national teams:
#1.Zach Auguste (208-C-93, agency: Pensack Sports, college: Notre Dame, currently plays in Basketball Champions League) could not help Usak Sportlif (4-9) in their last game on Wednesday. Despite Auguste's very good performance Usak Sportlif (#6) was defeated 85-77 on the road by the lower-ranked Openjobmetis VA (#7) in the group C of Basketball Champions League.
He recorded a double-double by scoring 18 points and getting 11 rebounds.
Auguste's team will play only one more game in the Basketball Champions League Regular Season. And that game will be critical.
This season Auguste has relatively solid stats: 13.9ppg and 8.6rpg.
He is a naturalized American.
Apparently Auguste has never played in Greece.
#2.Patrick Calathes (207-F-85, college: St.Joseph's, currently plays in Italy) was not able to help AV Cantu (6-9) in their last game on Tuesday. Despite Calathes' very good performance AV Cantu was defeated 85-79 at home by the leading Armani Milano.
He was the second best scorer with 19 points. Calathes also added 8 rebounds. It was his first game for AV Cantu this season.
Calathes is a naturalized American.
He used to play for Costa Cafe Marousi in Greek league.
#3.Nikolaos Stylianou (198-F-88, college: W.Texas A&M, currently plays in Cyprus) contributed to an easy victory against the league outsider Etha (2-9) crushing them 92-67 in the Cypriot Division A on Saturday night.
Stylianou scored 9 points and grabbed 8 rebounds in 26 minutes.
Keravnos Strovolou (9-1) is placed first in the Division A.
It was his team's fifth consecutive victory in a row.
This year Stylianou has relatively solid stats: 11.0ppg, 3.0rpg, 1.7apg and 1.1spg in seven games he played so far.
He has a dual citizenship: Greek and Cypriot.
#4.Nazareth Mitrou-Long (193-G-93, currently plays college basketball in the States), who plays in the NCAA was not able to secure a victory for the Iowa St. (3-3) in their last game on Saturday. Despite Mitrou-Long's very good performance the Iowa St. was defeated 84-77 on their home court in Ames, IA by the Texas Christian University.
He scored 19 points and added 3 assists.
Mitrou-Long has been at the team for five years.
Mitrou-Long has individually a very good season with high stats. He averages: 15.8ppg, 4.6rpg and 2.9apg.
Mitrou-Long is another player who holds two passports: Greek and Canadian.
Despite his Greek nationality, Mitrou-Long previously played for the Canadian U19 national team and is probably not eligible to play for the Greek team.
#5. Experienced Vassilis Kounas (194-G-84, currently plays in FIBA Europe Cup) contributed to Apoel's victory against the leader Telekom Baskets (4-1) 84-78 in the FIBA Europe Cup in Wednesday night's game.
He recorded 8 points.
Cytavision Apoel Nicosia (1-4) is placed fourth in group M.
Kounas' team will play only one more game in the FIBA Europe Cup Second Stage. And now that game is very crucial.
Kounas has been at the team for four years.
He has averaged so far 4.4ppg, 2.4rpg and 3.1apg.
Kounas has both Greek and Cypriot nationalities.
#6.Georgios Angelou (185-G-94, currently studies in the States) led St.Francis, PA to an easy victory against the Robert Morris University crushing them 77-57 in the NCAA last Thursday.
He recorded 12 points in a mere 16 minutes.
Angelou has averaged so far 7.0ppg, 1.2rpg and 2.6apg in 17 games.
#7.Maximiliano Sole (198-F-88, agency: Duran International, currently plays in Spain) contributed to an easy victory against the eighth-ranked Quintanar crushing them 81-50 in the Spanish EBA (fourth division) on Saturday night.
He scored 8 points, had 13 rebounds and dished 4 assists.
Sole averaged so far 10.9ppg, 8.8rpg, 2.7apg and 1.9spg.
He also holds two passports: Uruguayan and Greek.
#8.Vaggelis Loukas (196-F, currently plays in Canada) couldn't help the University of Northern British Columbia in their game against the Cougars in the Canadian university league CIS.
Loukas recorded 8 points and grabbed 5 rebounds in 27 minutes.
His team was edged 72-69.
He has averaged so far 9.1ppg, 6.6rpg, 1.9apg and 1.4spg in 14 games.
#9.Theodor Aliferis (183-G-88, currently plays in Norway) couldn't help Persbraten (1-16) in their last game on Tuesday. Despite Aliferis' good performance the bottom-ranked Persbraten was edged 86-85 in Bekkestua by the second-ranked Baerum Basket.
He recorded 13 points, 5 rebounds and 7 assists.
Aliferis has averaged so far 7.8ppg, 2.6rpg and 1.6apg.
He holds both Greek and Norwegian passports.
Despite Aliferis' Greek nationality, he previously played for the Norwegian U20 national team and probably cannot be called to the Greek team.
#10.Aristides Koronides (188-PG-82, currently plays in Cyprus) couldn't help Apollon in their game against AEK in the Cypriot Division A. Koronides cannot count Sunday's game as one of the best ones.
He scored only one point and added 5 assists in 28 minutes.
His team was crushed by 31 points 88-57.
Koronides has averaged so far 5.6ppg, 1.8rpg and 3.7apg in nine games.
He has Greek and Cypriot nationalities.
KK Mornar Basket Bar (Erste Liga) tabbed experienced 35-year old forward Cedomir Vitkovac (201-82, agency: BeoBasket). He played recently at KK Napredak Rubin Krusevac in Serbian KLS league. In two games he averaged 12.5ppg, 7.5rpg and 2.0apg this season. Vitkovac also played earlier that season for Apollon Patras in Greek A1 where in four KLS games he had 3.3ppg and 2.8rpg. Among other achievements he won Montenegrin League championship title in 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013 and 2014. Vitkovac... [read more]
KK Mornar Basket Bar (Erste Liga) tabbed experienced 35-year old forward Cedomir Vitkovac (201-82, agency: BeoBasket). He played recently at KK Napredak Rubin Krusevac in Serbian KLS league. In two games he averaged 12.5ppg, 7.5rpg and 2.0apg this season. Vitkovac also played earlier that season for Apollon Patras in Greek A1 where in four KLS games he had 3.3ppg and 2.8rpg. Among other achievements he won Montenegrin League championship title in 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013 and 2014. Vitkovac received also Eurobasket.com All-Montenegrin League Honorable Mention award back in 2014. He has played also professionally in Bosnia (Igokea) and Montenegro (Buducnost). Vitkovac is close to retirement age as a player. It may be one of last seasons in his extensive career, which he may end at Mornar Bar.
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